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The End of the Road for EFL Poland.
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sparks



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, Dynow's description of the process is exactly right. You can go ask at Mlynarska 5 or 9 or so, wherever the labor office is, I can't be bothered to read through Polish legal codes. Apparently America has some sort of agreement with Poland regarding businesses, this may make it easier. I believe for Canadians, for example, it isn't so easy to set up your "businessez" and just live in Poland.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
dynow wrote:

i feel as though this has been covered 100 times on this forum, yet people seem to be surprised that americans can work in poland without a work permit.

I lived and worked in poland, legally, for 4 years, without a work permit. Because i didn't need one. It's not like i found some loophole in the system. my school simply walked me through it and did the same for the 2 americans that they hired after me.

go to poland, get a job, set up your business bank account, get your NIP, REGON, zameldowanie, bla bla bla, and apply for a KB. continue to work, pay your ZUS, pay your taxes, wait for the KB to come. get your KB, live and work in poland for as many years as you want, just pay the fee to have your KB renewed when it expires.


Not accouding to the Mazowieckie office. Pop on over to their site and have a look at the first text attachment:

http://www.mazowieckie.pl/portal/en/27/28/Residence_legalization.html

Under "In case of conducting business activities" it clearly states in plain (albeit error-ridden) English that you must have a work permit and an 'extension of work permit,' whatever that means.

When I submitted my residence permit (KP) application without a work permit they sent me a letter telling me I had to come in and show them a work permit.

So if you've got some letter, dynow, which let you stay in Poland indefinitely just because you opened a company, I'd very much love to see it.
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And let me deal with the first refutation of MS's comment - we all know that if you work for a school which is accredited by the government, you don't need a work permit.

This i'm pretty certain (through all the hear-say on this site, albeit as yet unconfirmed by showing the relevant regulations) is ok, although I'd still hedge my bets that you'd probably have difficulties setting up a business as this is an exemption for an employer not to provide work permit documentation, therefore employing a teacher easily, not (I would suspect/argue) for a teacher to abuse this exemption for schools to set up his/her own business.

And the "when I was in Poland this was the way things happened" argument is rubbish as well. My concern is that people will read this forum, think that information about the way things happened in 1998 is still relevant now would case at best confusion, at worst that you can come here and do this an easy way which appears not to be the case.
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dynow



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Master Shake"]
dynow wrote:


So if you've got some letter, dynow, which let you stay in Poland indefinitely just because you opened a company, I'd very much love to see it.


sorry, i lit all my polish paperwork on fire.

don't know what else to tell you, man. it's how I did it, it's how my american friends in poland did it. that's all.
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sparks



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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sorry, i lit all my polish paperwork on fire.


Nice!!! That must have been cathartic. I lost most of mine.
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