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[choudoufu]

[igorG]

Exclaiming emotionally is one way to participate. So, let's further polarized and explain rather than exclaim. Some American unis have policies to accept local whites for unequal SAT scores to African American or Asians, Chinese in particular. African American can get away with a score of 1,100 while local whites with 1,300 in some top unis. Chinese simply have to demonstrate a better grasp of the questions and score over 1,500 to be considered. There also are scholarship schemes that are yet another subject of attention.

[Miles Smiles]

[whitehouse]

your whining is groundless----IgorG

Why I have only made about 20 blogs in 4 years is because this is often the standard of debate on this particular site. "Whining" is an entirely unecessary description of what I wrote and has a slightly abusive tone from someone who is looking for a juvenile arguement rather than debating an important issue.

[whitehouse]

The fact that foreign teachers and professors try to help them should be hailed, not despised.----IgorG

I know that foreign teachers, who may be competent or completely incompetent, are influenced to take a job by more than generosity and the unecessary whine quoted above is a very limited version of the truth . It makes me wonder where this writer is coming from.
Those who teach foreign students on foreign university projected courses receive ,often , in excess of 20000 rmb per month plus paid for apartment and a free trip home. Don't tell me that their pay has no influence on their wish of where they work.

[igorG]

So, you are complaining about high FTs salaries which in my view are deserving for prep programs to western unis. What I still don't understand is that you have not followed up on the reasons for your accusations below. This isn't a "juvenile arguement" but debate in response to your allegations and my pitch is only a reflection on your presumptions about FTs on mainland China. Have a good look at it again and then please reply accordingly.

[igorG]

[santi84]

I teach English in Canada, so I am used to dealing with these students here rather than back home.

A lot of the students that come here are highly unmotivated. They tend to be rejected from the more prestigious schools in China (or Japan, or whatever) and dare I say... are often a bit of a "problem child"? Spoiled, spoiled, spoiled with money and the attitude to go along with it.

I taught in Vancouver, which has reached 35-40% Chinese population (immigrants or ethnic origin). The Chinese students here do not go outside their circle of Chinese friends, they stick to Chinese-only areas (hey, even our street signs in Richmond are in Mandarin), and do not make much of an effort to speak to anyone. Likewise, English-speaking students don't reach out to them either.

I can't really blame them, I know what it's like to try and assimilate into a foreign culture when you have poor language abilities, but parents aren't here to supervise and it is human nature to take the easy way out... if you want your kid to learn English in Canada, send them to the Yukon or Red Deer, Alberta. Don't come to Vancouver and Toronto (and or heaven's sake, not Montreal!!), just because the universities are prestigious.