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christmas
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: job offer in Beijing |
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Can someone give me an idea if this is a good offer or not. An international school in Beijing has offered me 20000 a month with a paid apartment and 16 teaching hours/week. Holidays are 80% paid.
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twilothunder
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, it's a good offer. |
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MisterButtkins
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Ludicrously good offer. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| It's a good offer, and it just goes to show that schools can actually afford decent salaries and benefits when they eliminate the greed factor. Looks like some of the money that is being made actually goes to the teacher instead of the pockets of some greedy paper pusher. |
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TexasHighway
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| On the surface, it looks like a great offer. In fact, it appears to be a bragging post to me! |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:37 am Post subject: |
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It's about right for an international school.
A native-speaking certificated teacher with home country teaching experience (which is likely what you would need to garner an offer like that) would have a good idea of what was competitive in that sector.
My experience is that the Chinese owners of these schools are more at arms length and the hiring, salary offers and other conditions are in the hands of senior foreign staff.
That's good although I have heard that US trained senior staff are fairly intolerant of teachers who don't have their same career pathway. This is partly because non-US teachers have such terrible accents!  |
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auchtermuchty
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: Re: job offer in Beijing |
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| christmas wrote: |
Can someone give me an idea if this is a good offer or not. An international school in Beijing has offered me 20000 a month with a paid apartment and 16 teaching hours/week. Holidays are 80% paid.
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You don't say what your qualifications are, or provide any info on the school. Are you a certified teacher in your own country? Are you going to be teaching at a school that has recognised certifications? Hard to say if it's a good offer. |
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MisterButtkins
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Posts: 1221
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:22 am Post subject: Re: job offer in Beijing |
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| auchtermuchty wrote: |
| christmas wrote: |
Can someone give me an idea if this is a good offer or not. An international school in Beijing has offered me 20000 a month with a paid apartment and 16 teaching hours/week. Holidays are 80% paid.
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You don't say what your qualifications are, or provide any info on the school. Are you a certified teacher in your own country? Are you going to be teaching at a school that has recognised certifications? Hard to say if it's a good offer. |
pfft 16 hours a week for 20k a month is a good offer, unless you are a Nobel Laureate or something. |
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zactherat
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:17 am Post subject: |
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i doubt that this is actually an ESL position - it's probably a subject/homeroom teaching position
in which case it's kid of weird to come and boast about it on an ESL website. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:31 am Post subject: |
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I don't know. I've seen better offers from intl schools. Real international schools would probably pay about double that. Keep in mind that 16 hours teaching can quickly grow at intl schools when you have meetings, prep, more meetings, have to be at school all day, sports, recess duty, etc.
I'd also ask about the apartment. |
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christmas
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if it sounded like I was boasting. I wasn't in fact. Just wondering if it sounded good. I have heard that Beijing is very expensive. Thanks for the responses. I appreciate it.
Cheers
Merry Christmas |
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johntpartee
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't sound like you were boasting to me. You laid out your offer and asked for opinions. It's a goodun. |
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twilothunder
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
I don't know. I've seen better offers from intl schools. Real international schools would probably pay about double that. Keep in mind that 16 hours teaching can quickly grow at intl schools when you have meetings, prep, more meetings, have to be at school all day, sports, recess duty, etc.
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There are international schools that pay more, but that is undoubtedly a good first offer (assuming the poster is new to China, if he has to ask that) even for a qualified subject teacher here.
It's the 16 hours that p*sses me off most because normally it is contracted 20-24 hours (at the international schools I have taught at or had discussions with anyway). |
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MisterButtkins
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Real international schools would probably pay about double that. |
Right, 40k/month.  |
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auchtermuchty
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 344 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Real international schools in Beijing generally pay more than 20K. They don't usually cut your pay by 20% in the holidays. The offer sounds like the Korean school. If that's the case, it's not bad, because the workload is not as heavy as a normal international school position, and you also don't need to be a certified teacher.
http://www.isb.bj.edu.cn/salary-benefits.aspx |
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