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dog8food
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: Anyone enjoy their school -- that is recruiting? |
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Still searching for my first China gig. My biggest fear thus far is ending up at school that doesn't treat foreign teachers well. I'd like to look into some schools that some of you recommend. Post here or PM me if you're willing.
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Denim-Maniac
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Might help if you post some personal info regarding age/qualifications/experience/preferences. People are more likely to recommend somewhere if they know more about you. 
Im happy at my place, but it might not be suitable according to experience, qualifications, salary requirements etc etc |
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rogerwilco
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It might seem harsh, but I would never recommend a person that I do not personally know to my school or any other school.
Why ? Because any poor behaviour by a recommended person will be associated with me and possibly blamed on me.
Chinese seem to always generalize us, and there is a lot of assumed guilt by association, so if I recommend a person that turns out to be a violent, drunken womanizer (for example), then it will be assumed by many that I am the same. |
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peewee1979
Joined: 30 Jun 2011
Posts: 167
Location: Once in China was enough. Burned and robbed by Delter and watching others get cheated was enough.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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It might seem harsh, but I would never recommend a person that I do not personally know to my school or any other school.
Why ? Because any poor behaviour by a recommended person will be associated with me and possibly blamed on me.
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I once recommended a dude from this www site to a school I worked at. BIGGEST China mistake I could make. Online the guy seemed like a stand-up guy but once he came to the school the guy was a total druggie. I don't mean a hit of reefer, I mean the hard stuff. That and in the first week he was doing one of our communal students. In his school room.
It all came back to me as I gave him the fao's email and introduced him.
Caution here unless they are a close friend, never do it. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China
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It might seem harsh, but I would never recommend a person that I do not personally know to my school or any other school.
Why ? Because any poor behaviour by a recommended person will be associated with me and possibly blamed on me.
Chinese seem to always generalize us, and there is a lot of assumed guilt by association, so if I recommend a person that turns out to be a violent, drunken womanizer (for example), then it will be assumed by many that I am the same. |
Oh how I agree because it happened to me! I "met" a "teacher" here at Dave's (he was a regular at the time albeit under several different names) and we PMed a couple of times, then met for lunch a couple of times and he seemed like a, you know . . . OKAY person. Had a personality for sure but seemed eager to teach. He lasted about 10 weeks and was a nightmare for me and the school (and of course, he's taken great glee over the past, what, 3 years now in blasting me and the school over and over again [via, yes, a huge variety of 'net names] at a host of message boards). I will NEVER make that mistake again. Let the school fend for themselves when it comes to recruiting and hiring!
PS: My school has not seemed to hold this aberration in my long-time service to them against me. |
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zootown
Joined: 27 Nov 2009
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Just wondering going the other way what people think when the school asks you to give a reference for the school to potential FT.
Me I am reluctant to get involved.Don't really want to get caught up in it if it doesn't work out for both parties. |
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dog8food
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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I understand the potential hazards of recommending someone at the risk of "losing face." I'm not seeking any personal recommendations, just school reputations. I'd deal with the FAO or recruiter on my own.
Thanks all for your help :^) |
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roadwalker
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Location: Ch
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Aren't you the one who's looking for a "short-term gig"? If those of us with some experience have some schools that treated us decently in mind, why would we want to share that information with someone who is only planning a few months' stay? If the school plays by the rules, it costs them in resources, time and money to acquire the services of a foreign teacher. Of course life intervenes and sometimes even well-intentioned teachers need to leave early. But frankly, I wouldn't recommend someone to a public school who was planning to leave just when the school year was getting started, nor would I recommend that school to such a person to contact on his/her own.
If you are only planning to work a short time, I would advise working for a language mill or a summer camp program, as long as it is clear about the short-term nature of your work. Most schools will treat you okay, particularly if you are qualified. For a few months, you ought to just try your luck. Just make sure you have funds to get back home if things go south. |
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