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imderek2 · Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 16

Hey everyone, I will be getting my B.A. at the end of May and I hopefully will have completed my TEFL cert by then, but I've noticed some of the jobs I want to apply to are asking for copies of my degree and passport page when I send in my resume.

Since I don't have a degree yet and haven't finished my TEFL, I can't send any of that stuff in.

Anyone else been in a similar situation, know what to do?
My girlfriend is getting more and more annoyed that I'm not making enough progress in my job hunting. These types of little things are really slowing me down though.

xiguagua · Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Posts: 768

If you plan on coming to China for the start of next term then you still have time. All of June/July/August to find work. If nothing else you can still open a dialogue with schools and explain to them that you can get them the diploma copy as soon as you get it and it shouldn't be a big problem.

thebrandynabides · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Shaoguan

Not saying all schools will accept this, but my college printed up a short letter saying that I had X amount of credits and was due to graduate by a certain date. My school accepted that until I finished my last semester and got them a scan of the real thing. Worth a shot.

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

1. do you have any post graduation work experience?

2. your girlfriend will be coming with you?

danasoverseasemail · Joined: 08 Jan 2012 Posts: 86

The law requires that you have a degree, two years of teaching experience post degree, 25+ years of age, and (new) a teaching (TESOL, IELTS, etc.) certificate.

It would seem you do not meet the legal requirements for a work visa and foreign expert certificate.

Opiate · Joined: 10 Aug 2011 Posts: 630 Location: Qingdao

thebrandynabides · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 31 Location: Shaoguan

imderek2 · Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 16

therock · Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China

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vikeologist · Joined: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 600

OP -When will you get ther actual degree certificate. Sometimes the Police aren't too impressed / convinced by letters saying that you've passed, but don't yet have the cert.

If you get the certificate in May, my Uni would have no problem with you applying now, though lack of teaching experience could clearly be disadvantageous.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Given that at least 70% of the posts on Dave�s �China Job Related� are about under the table, devious, not true to label, half truths and downright lies, together with attempts by non eligible schools to have FTs enter and work on tourist visas, it is a bit rich for anyone to sternly quote minimum qualifications and experience and Chinese law generally.

A friend is completing his 10th year of teaching in China this year. He has neither degree or ESL certification and is 71 years of age!

His career rebuts just about every �it�s the law� post made - especially the one above.

His current job is at a nice tertiary college in a desirable city and he started in September last year. He has not simply been renewed at the one school.

I think the collective wisdom on Dave�s has already worked out that Chinese �law� is not upheld. What we're helping each other with is assessing risk in the multiplicity of situations that arise in applying/ getting/enjoying/surviving and leaving ESL work in China.

Given that even the mainstream jobs have their risks, the people on Dave's who have experience are helpful in assessing how much risk is too much and what are the warning signs.
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imderek2 · Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 16

thanks for the info

imderek2 · Joined: 23 Feb 2012 Posts: 16

coco1979 · Joined: 07 Feb 2012 Posts: 29

I would apply to the usual recruiters and be honest with them, I doubt you will have trouble finding something, they will probably bite your hand off.