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Nkengaola
Joined: 28 Nov 2011 Posts: 92 Location: Wanzhou, Chongqing
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: What questions should I ask? |
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I'm sure this has been covered hundreds of times in this forum, but for some reason the search function comes back with no responses.
I am considering a position teaching English as a foreign language at a school in Chongqing, China. I have the opportunity to talk with one of the current teachers there. What questions should I ask her? |
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Miajiayou
Joined: 30 Apr 2011 Posts: 283 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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First, ask some basic questions in order to discover whether you are talking to a native speaker or not.
Other questions kind of depend on whether you are working for a mill or a university, but good ones would be:
1) How many times was your schedule changed?
2) Did the school frequently request your presence at dinners, parties, stupid little shows, etc.?
3) Were you paid in full and on time?
3) Is the accommodation acceptable? How far is it from where you will be teaching? Is transportation provided?
5) Why are/aren't you staying?
If the school handed over their email address, they're in good standing. But, I've talked to a surprising amount of teachers who just loved their school because they thought it was totally not a big deal to get jerked around all the time because they're totally team players and their poor Noble Savage of a boss is just having a rough time. So, you might get some good info about said jerking around should that be the case. |
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dean_a_jones

Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a list of some general things you should try to figure out (although a lot of these may be answered by the FAO rather than the FT):
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=91394
Rather than pressing someone to talk about the bad points (as the school will have provided someone they trust) try to be a bit more subtle when talking about things. Mention issues you have heard teachers in China generally face. Get their input about the city, what they do in their free time, other teachers and the expat community. Ask them to recommend any websites or whatnot about the city they are in that they think are useful. Ask them what they enjoy most/least about the job, the city, the employer. Ask about what the teaching materials, courses and students are like.
It is worth noting that some schools will put you in touch with someone who is also expected to pass judgement on you and say if they think you sound ok, so professional questions about the curriculum, students, facilities etc. show you are serious about working in a professional environment.
Also, if possible I think it is better to try to chat on Skype if it can be arranged, rather than email. Obviously it is what works best for the person, but I prefer to chat with people on Skype as it works out to be a lot quicker and easier than writing a long, detailed email if they have a lot of questions. You might get more out of them (and be better placed to judge if you think it is accurate) if actually speaking to them rather than reading responses they have taken their time over or are vague. |
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xiguagua

Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Posts: 768
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Miajiayou wrote: |
If the school handed over their email address, they're in good standing. But, I've talked to a surprising amount of teachers who just loved their school because they thought it was totally not a big deal to get jerked around all the time because they're totally team players and their poor Noble Savage of a boss is just having a rough time. So, you might get some good info about said jerking around should that be the case. |
This made me Yeah, generally if you get someones e-mail they will be in good standing. But I find it just pathetic that so many people here need to be coddled and pampered so much so that if their refrigerator isn't plugged in when they arrive they simply MUST complain about it. Worrying so much about such mundane things that i've seen people on here demand and complain about will just add to an already high level of stress you get working here. Not accusing you personally, i'm just saying in general.
Let me say that COOPERATING with your school and getting "jerked around" are two completely different things. If I have to buy chopsticks for my home........I don't care, chopsticks are like 5 yuan for a box of 20million and a lot of people here don't even cook. That's not getting jerked around, that's me not worrying about complaining to the school about something trivial. If the apartment doesn't have air conditioning when it's -1358157051850C outside then yes, I will complain and demand it done ASAP. There's a difference. Also, in before people take my figures and exaggerations for actual facts and say that i'm stupid for not complaining before it gets that cold.
That being said, I think it is important to make sure the FT you're in touch with is in fact a FT, this will be easy to tell by their typing. I find that the most important thing to look for is a positive AND negative assessment of things at the school and the city they live in. I've had people respond to me with "Nothing is wrong here! I love every minute of every waking moment of my life here!" uhh yeah.....nice try! I've also seen "THIS PLACE IS A HELLHOLE! A WALKING NITEMARE FILLED WITH FLESH EATING CHINESE ZOMBIES!" ok well, i'm sure that's exaggerated.
I always try to have ongoing communications with people I ask for details as well as people who ask me for details. Ask about the school, what they like, what they don't like. Location of the school, cost of living, ease of finding food: cooking and restaurants, hows your FAO, is he/she competent? paid on time, problems dealt with swiftly and accordingly?shopping, supermarkets, Can I find X item there, finding clothes that fit if i'm a fatty, realistic chance of finding a Chinese girlfriend or having a one night stand (you might roll your eyes but i've gotten this from almost every man asking about my old job), things to do in the city, how to spend your free time, and yes why they decided to leave that post.
Like I said, on-going communication is a must for a little while to be sure to cover everything you're worried about. I personally try to give as much detail as possible with places and i'm brutally honest as to not give people false impressions or false hopes about a place. I think that even with our small community of FTs we can at least try to be honest and helpful with each other. |
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Miajiayou
Joined: 30 Apr 2011 Posts: 283 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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xiguagua wrote: |
Let me say that COOPERATING with your school and getting "jerked around" are two completely different things. If I have to buy chopsticks for my home........I don't care, chopsticks are like 5 yuan for a box of 20million and a lot of people here don't even cook. That's not getting jerked around, that's me not worrying about complaining to the school about something trivial. If the apartment doesn't have air conditioning when it's -1358157051850C outside then yes, I will complain and demand it done ASAP. There's a difference. Also, in before people take my figures and exaggerations for actual facts and say that i'm stupid for not complaining before it gets that cold. |
I don't get what chopsticks have to do with the questions I posted about schedule, pay, and such. |
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Nkengaola
Joined: 28 Nov 2011 Posts: 92 Location: Wanzhou, Chongqing
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for your responses. I have sent off my first set of questions (I don't want to overwhelm her with too many at once), and hopefully I'll get a detailed response back. Thanks again! |
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GHammer
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 37 Location: Guangdong, China
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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FANTASTIC information and advice for newbies in this thread! It's also good advice for people who are switching jobs or trying to "upgrade" from their current positions. Happy hunting, everyone.
--G |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: |
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GHammer wrote: |
FANTASTIC information and advice for newbies in this thread! It's also good advice for people who are switching jobs or trying to "upgrade" from their current positions. Happy hunting, everyone.
--G |
I know and achieved completely without being lockedinadrawerlookingfordanasoverseasmail! |
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Lobster

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 2040 Location: Somewhere under the Sea
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:59 am Post subject: |
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On that note, you may wish to ask whether any of the other FTs at the school are misanthropic psychopaths.
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therock

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 1266 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Lobster wrote: |
On that note, you may wish to ask whether any of the other FTs at the school are misanthropic psychopaths.
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Would be funny if the school replied "yes" |
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