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What will you all do when the backpacking's over ???
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Victoria



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="windsorman1972]Teaching English in China is for young guys passing through, old guys who already have it, and then for morons and total losers (especially those with a history of mental problems). Which one are you?[/quote]

im glad i didn't wrote that..... Laughing
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Rhino



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Location: frosty cold one...ehr, Canada that is

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Quote "Oh, but I can save half my salary and live for free and eat like a King, etc, etc. Where can you do that back home?" Hey, pathetic moron losers, successful people back home lose more money per month than you are saving and don't even notice it missing because they have real jobs, making real money with real lives"

Very Happy This is by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on this forum. Whats a real job? do you think I care about the money people make back at home? Whats your Idea of a real life? White picket fence,2 kids, big house...etc. If you were drunk when you wrote this I'll understand Cool


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windsorman1972



Joined: 12 May 2004
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Location: China - Here for the Cheap Sex Only

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victoria wrote:
im glad i didn't wrote that..... Laughing


Rhino wrote:
Whats a real job? do you think I care about the money people back at home?


I rest my case.
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Rhino



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing thats the best you can do old timer? Pick up a typo. Look, I may not be the teacher you are but I dont have to be. I teach "cookie monsters blue book." My student enjoy singing and my crazy antics in class. I make a modest 8000rmbs a month and I'm really enjoying my time here. I'm not looking to start a flame war here it just seems like your passing jugment on people you dont really know. There are more than three kinds of teachers here in China. Myself, I just wanted to escape the cold winters and try something new and it happened to work out really well for me. Cheers.
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Hakeyi



Joined: 21 May 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too, have had a love/hate relationship with China. I'm still of two minds whether I'll came back, maybe I will but for the moment, I need a change and to pay a few bills at home. The problem is when I get home I know I'll get itchy feet. Where else in the world can you tour amazing places like Guilin and Yangshuo in your May vacation, stay in 4/5star hotels for under 1000rmb? What irks me is posts from losers like this
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Teaching English in China is for young guys passing through, old guys who already made it, and then for morons and total losers (especially those with a history of drug, alcohol and mental problems). Which one are you?

I happen to be near retirement but I've met some really good people teaching here in their forties, so I'm saddened by posts like this. Unfortunately, idiocy, drug addiction etc have no age barrier. Just because YOU couldn't cut it in China doesn't mean that everyone's doomed!
I suggest that anyone who is totally bored by the antics of egomanics in this forum may care to try the following site. It could change your life, in the case of windsorman1972, I doubt it.

http://p073.ezboard.com/ffansofthepassionofthechristfrm2.showMessage?topicID=361.topic [/quote]
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cujobytes



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Windsorman 1972 Reply with quote

So I repeat the question, which one are you? And why are you still here? That's a bad attitude you've got there sunshine, no wonder you're not enjoying yourself. I suggest you get on the next 'plane out, go home, get shackled to a nice steady job and mortgage, marry a fatass suburban chick and spend the next 25 years wishing you were somewhere exotic and exciting. bye bye, of you go now, there's a good little suburbanite.
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struelle



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I was making, say, 10000rmb per month (plus all the other freebies I currently get) and I could fly home once or twice a year for a month-long visit, then maybe (JUST maybe), I'd stay here longer. But, quite frankly, China wears me out! So, okay, I had (have?) a pretty sedate life. But the walking, the stair climbing, battling the elements, the mental challenges, the frustrations - - they all just zap my strength.


I can agree here, and my parents said the same thing when they visited me during Spring Festival.

Steve
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kimo



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Comedia Divina Reply with quote

I've come to the conclusion that it was Dante, not Marco Polo, who traveled from Italy to China and then returned home after several years. How else could he have written the following?

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In the middle of the journey of our life, I came to myself, in a dark wood, where the direct way was lost. It is a hard thing to speak of, how wild, harsh and impenetrable that wood was, so that thinking of it recreates the fear. It is scarcely less bitter than death: but, in order to tell of the good that I found there, I must tell of the other things I saw there.

. . . But you, why do you turn back towards such pain? Why do you not climb the delightful mountain, that is the origin and cause of all joy?�

I answered him, with a humble expression: �Are you then that Virgil, and that fountain, that pours out so great a river of speech? O, glory and light to other poets, may that long study, and the great love, that made me scan your work, be worth something now. You are my master, and my author: you alone are the one from whom I learnt the high style that has brought me honour. See the creature that I turned back from: O, sage, famous in wisdom, save me from her, she that makes my veins and my pulse tremble.�

When he saw me weeping, he answered: �You must go another road, if you wish to escape this savage place. This creature, that distresses you, allows no man to cross her path, but obstructs him, to destroy him, and she has so vicious and perverse a nature, that she never sates her greedy appetite, and after food is hungrier than before. . .
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jg



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Teaching English in China is for young guys passing through, old guys who already made it, and then for morons and total losers (especially those with a history of drug, alcohol and mental problems). Which one are you?



I am a moron, if those are the only choices. Not a bad life, for a moron: I make good money, and I can easily afford a satisfactory life here in Shanghai. I am learning the language, and I am developing a core group of friends similar to those I have had in other big cities around the globe. There is little I want that I cannot either get here or have sent here, and though you scoff at earning power, my earning power here outstrips that of most of my other teaching gigs: jr. high in the US, and language schools in both the US and South America. Whether I stay or not, there are many teachers here like me - career teachers, trained and professional, who happen to be abroad doing their job. Nothing more!

Your disdain for the Chinese is obvious, and your disgust for those who don't recognize their idiocy comes through clearly too. I wonder how you feel about yourself?

You perhaps are willfully ignoring those who come here who are not English teachers and make efforts to participate in the society - do the expat businessmen somehow enjoy their life more because they earn (most of them) more cash? What of the the vast array of foreigners doing other things, the artists, restauranteurs, etc? Fools, all?

Teaching English in China has a low barrier to entry, but really so do many fields. You paint with broad and crude strokes and, troll though you are, I suspect that there are many who will read your post and get what I see as another faux-cynical view of China. Wisdom doesn't belong only to the "vets" which you present yourself as.

Well, I hope that you aren't nearly so sour as you present yourself to be here.
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cujobytes



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Location: Zhuhai, (Sunny South) China.

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: don't jump to conclusions Reply with quote

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you're showing your greenness

I've been here as long as as you have rickster, and ignoring the fact that I never suggested anyone come to Zhuhai ( I'm trying to keep it a secret ) It's certainly more exotic and exiting than suburban USA.
Actually, no its not, it's boring and not on the ocean or the border of Macau and there isn't a bar street and the place isn't swarming with beautiful girls and if you want to go hiking or biking or just lie on the beach there's nowhere do it. The sky isn't blue and there isn't a fresh ocean breeze and you can't go to a bar on the beach and be served cold beer while you run your feet through clean sand while watching football on a 10'x6' outdoor screen and the temperature isn't mild all year round.
No, you can't be in Hong Kong or Shenzhen after a pleasant 1 hour ferry ride, and if you want nightclubs or Discos or showbars, well forget about it, nothing here. Really. Very dull and boring.
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cujobytes



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:42 am    Post subject: And furthermore Rickster Reply with quote

If you can drink three bottles of bai jeo I'll eat your hat Cool
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yaco



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 5:04 am    Post subject: backpackers Reply with quote

Dear Hakeyi

You must have low standards when considering 4 and 5 star hotels in China.

You can pay up to 1000rmb for hotels that have no English language Television or a swimming pool.

Go to Thailand and pay 250 to 400 rmb for a 4 or 5 star hotel with swimming pool, massive bed, 40 channels on the TV, fridge, etc , etc, etc.

Hotels are overpriced in China in comparison to other South East Asian countries.
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Talkdoc



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stavrogin2001



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talkdoc,

You raise a good point. Perhaps thats why many do not consider this a "real"job. However in the three years I have been in China I have seen more and more opportunities for advancement in the Chinese English world, albeit mostly in the private sector with foreign companies, but I think it is an option.

Companies like EF, Berlitz, and TMC are all offering different forms of advancement. Grant it, that is a very small percent of the EFL market.
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william wallace



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Stick to the threads questions and stop insulting each other Reply with quote

Why should they, that's 30% of the postings!

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