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They ask for my passport # . Is this normal?? I have tried calling there twice but both times my contact was not in. I spent several mins (calling from Canada) talking to someone who spoke very broken english. Is my passport # required for them to arrange my visa?? SOme other posts have mentioned different visa's . As teachers are we not all getting "Z" Visa's?? Who normally pays for the visa?? Us or the employer/recruiter??
Does anything seem out of place in this application form?? Anything missing from it???

thx a bunch in advance.


Please write clearly in BLEACK INK using CAPITAL LETTERS (YOU CAN ALSO TYPE THE INFORMATION BY COMPUT)

TITLE: (Dr/Mr/Mrs/Ms/Miss) Please, attach your
passport photograph
here securely, if you mail the application form, please enclose your photograph below
Family Name:
First Name:
(The names must be the same as the names on your passpor)
Date of Birth: (dd/mm/yy)
Gender： M F (Circle as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)
Nationality: US Canada UK Australia New Zealand Others ___________
(Circle as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)
Are You English Native Speaker: Y N (Circle as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)
Your Passport Number: (Must Be Correct)
Address In Your Country:
(Include Zip Code)
Your Current Address:
(Include Post Number)
Telephone Number: Country Code Area Code
Tel No Emergency Contact Number:
Fax Number: E-mail:


FOR OFFICE USE ONLY （Candidates don�t fill in this area）
Candidate Number: Candidate Name:
Passport Number: Placement
Voice Test: Y N Teaching Experience Y Years N
Special Requirements
Recruiter Signature Date: (dd/mm/yy)


Please Answer All The Questions Below With Your Real Information, so that we can help you out!

(Tick as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)

1. What level of education have you completed? (Tick one box only)

H.S Degree
Bachelors Degree
Masters Degree
Doctorate Other _________
2. Which University did you graduate from?

3. What was your Major?


(Tick as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)

1. How many years have you worked?
Less than 5 years More than 5 years More than 10 years More than 20 years More than 30 years
2. Where did you work? And what did you do?

3. Do you have any teaching experience? (if you have, please note)
Less than 5 years More than 5 years More than 10 years More than 20 years More than 30 years

(Tick as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)

You�re Available FROM TO
Preferred Class K-6 Grade 7-12 Grade College Adults Business All
Special Subjects Business English TOEFL GRE GMAT IELTS Reading Writing


We provide the Invitation to work and the Visa.
YOUR CURRENT VISA TO CHINA: (Tick as appropriate, if you type the information on computer, please BOLD your answer)

None
L Visa
F Visa
Needs To Be Extend

Z Visa
Other

FAVORITE PLACES (Please Tick which place do you want to visit and teach, At least Tick four of them)

Beijing (北京)
Hebei （河北）
Tianjing （天津）
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Liaoning（辽宁）
Shandong （山东）
Shanghai （上海）
Neimenggu （内蒙古）
Other
OPPORTUNITIES
How would you like to live in China, learn Chinese, and get paid it? Englishexpert.net is interested to find vibrant, dynamic cultural diplomats to bridge the gap between the East and the West. With China quickly becoming Asia�s economic powerhouse, you have a unique opportunity to witness China�s rapid modernization. You get the best of both worlds! You can see what the new china will become while experiencing its ancient, fascination culture, all the while becoming an expert in the Chinese way-of-life. Made good friends, eating tasty, different foods, and learning a different language are just a taste of what lies ahead. With our extensive resource of schools and vocational facilities in need of teachers, we are confident we can find a suitable and exciting English position that meets your needs and qualifications.


ACCOMMODATION AND MEAL
We provide you free accommodation and lunch during the short training, and the school will provide you free accommodation there after.
The most common accommodations provided by Schools, Colleges and Universities are apartments, college or university dormitory or hotel's room with Bed, Table, Sofa, Chairs, Water, Coolers, Heaters, TVs, Desks, Wardrobes, Bookcase, Coffee Tables, Computers and Internet service Etc.
Meals are generally provided by the School, College or university, and you can dinner or lunch in the atmosphere of your students and colleagues

SALARY
The SALARY is ￥4,000-$8,000 per month according to your education level, teaching experience and negotiations with the schools, colleges and universities.

EXPENSE
The expenses for your daily life, e.g. transportation, entertainment are cheaper than your country, but the same living level. You don�t need to expend money for accommodation, electricity and water.

Please mail the Application Form, your photograph, and a copy of your passport to: [email protected] after filling in all the information required or fax to xx-xxx-xxxxxxThen we will send more DOCUMENTS, WORKING CONTRACT, WORK OFFER and INVITATION LETTER.
We look forward to welcoming you to China.
Yours sincerely

[Roger]

Clearly this is an agent. What's your beef? You will have to provide your passport number - as important as your personal name!
Who pays for the work visa? Normally your employer. But who knows?

[Jane51]

The employer should pay for the visa. Some teachers come in on an 'F' visa...or even a tourist visa (which can be difficult to change later) It is best to come in on a'Z' visa which requires a letter of invitation from your emloyer. The employer must be registered and have permission for them to employ foreigners to issue a valid signed and stamped letter of invitation.

Giving your passport number is standard practise. It is common to be requested to send a copy of your passport.

Keep asking questions from the agent/employer and if they are not answered to your satisfaction...ask again...and again. A common Chinese trait is to avoid questions they cannot answer. They 'lose face' if they can't give an answer. Don't whatever you do, sign the contract on-line. Wait till you get to the place of work and SEE your accommodation. And SEE the schedule and the working conditions. Refuse to sign anything until everything is as it was promised to you. Stand firm.

Hope this helps

I was a 'newbie' three years ago and learnt the hard way.

Good Luck

[rj]

If you don't sign the contract before going over, how do you get the Z visa? If they do manage to get you a visa and when you get there you don't sign with the school, what happens?

[Jane51]

The visa offices require a signed stamped letter of invitation from the school. to issue a Z visa. Not a contract. An on-line contract or faxed contract is only a document of intent. It only becomes legal when both parties sign in the presence of witness(es). This of course is often glibbed over in China and all sorts of ducking a diving can take place. As I said, know your facts and stick to your guns.
Good luck
Jane

[ChinaLady]

the advice is good. have a letter before you come over. FROM THE SCHOOL YOU WILL BE WITH. I do not like nor trust agents. they are in this game for the MONEY, not to assist you with finding a position that will work for you. if, IF, the agent gives you some school names - visit their web sites and check them out yourself.
the advantage in being in China is that you can visit the different schools BEFORE signing anything. and the agents/schools know this.
so the first year is kinda a "shot in the dark." you may get lucky and score a school you really like AND want to stay with a few years.
otherwise the first year is a "learning" experience and a time to travel, meet people, and find a school more suited to what you want.
and, , ,
you always have this forum to ask about a school/agent/FAO - the people who write in here are for the most part - basicly up front.
good hunting!