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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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johntpartee
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I'm in! What do I get? Apart from the pseudo-intellectualism required to make some of us feel superior, I liked "kidult". |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear Sasha,
I perused the article but now I'm in a quandary: where are the "difficult" words?
Regards,
John |
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choudoufu

Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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bah! what kind of linguistician would write "syllabuses?"
it's syllabi, dagnabbit! |
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smithrn1983
Joined: 23 Jul 2010 Posts: 320 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Can I start the Peevers United Front? |
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smithrn1983
Joined: 23 Jul 2010 Posts: 320 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear Sasha,
I perused the article but now I'm in a quandary: where are the "difficult" words?
Regards,
John |
Why do we describe words as 'difficult'? Not only do native speakers describe some words as 'difficult', but I've heard students, too, say there there were many 'difficult' words in a text I gave them. Surely, these are simply words they don't know, so 'unknown' would seem to be the better adjective in my opinion. Sure, the distinction between 'uninterested' and 'disinterested' can be difficult for some to master, but I don't see what it is about the words themselves, that makes them difficult. Except 'squirrel'. That one is difficult to master.
Also, I'm not commenting on John's specific use of the word 'difficult' to describe words, but rather commenting on the general use of the word 'difficult' to describe other words. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Dear smithrn1983,
I have it on good authority that John used the word "difficult" (in quotation marks, which, by the way, served two purposes: to signify that the word came from the article and to signify that adjective is silly if used to describe vocabulary) because that is how the article describes them.
"No, now I confine myself to making the rueful point that although the subject matter of my stories and novels - which includes such phenomena as sexual deviance, drug addiction and mental illness - has become quite unexceptionable, the supposedly difficult language they are couched in seems to have become more and more offensive to readers.
"Difficult" is the key word here. In the past, before the withering away of censorship, it was the depiction of sexuality and the bodily in general - together with anything smacking of anti-authoritarianism - that was perceived as difficult."
I hope I'm not being "difficult" here.
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John |
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Chancellor
Joined: 31 Oct 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Ji'an, China - if you're willing to send me cigars, I accept donations :)
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United Peevers Front! |
Peevers Liberation Party. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Strangely, "floccinaucinihilipilification", is not a "difficult" word, and very useful, too!
Just hope that no one floccinaucinihilipilificates this post.  |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Phil_K,
That's easy for YOU to say.
But I'd never trifle with floccinaucinihilipilification; it's too valuable a word.
Regards,
John |
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