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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:41 am    Post subject: United Peevers Front! Reply with quote

Recruitment based on knowledge of words in following article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17777556
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in! What do I get? Apart from the pseudo-intellectualism required to make some of us feel superior, I liked "kidult".
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

I perused the article but now I'm in a quandary: where are the "difficult" words?

Regards,
John
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bah! what kind of linguistician would write "syllabuses?"

it's syllabi, dagnabbit!
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smithrn1983



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I start the Peevers United Front?
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smithrn1983



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Sasha,

I perused the article but now I'm in a quandary: where are the "difficult" words?

Regards,
John


Why do we describe words as 'difficult'? Not only do native speakers describe some words as 'difficult', but I've heard students, too, say there there were many 'difficult' words in a text I gave them. Surely, these are simply words they don't know, so 'unknown' would seem to be the better adjective in my opinion. Sure, the distinction between 'uninterested' and 'disinterested' can be difficult for some to master, but I don't see what it is about the words themselves, that makes them difficult. Except 'squirrel'. That one is difficult to master.

Also, I'm not commenting on John's specific use of the word 'difficult' to describe words, but rather commenting on the general use of the word 'difficult' to describe other words.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear smithrn1983,

I have it on good authority that John used the word "difficult" (in quotation marks, which, by the way, served two purposes: to signify that the word came from the article and to signify that adjective is silly if used to describe vocabulary) because that is how the article describes them.

"No, now I confine myself to making the rueful point that although the subject matter of my stories and novels - which includes such phenomena as sexual deviance, drug addiction and mental illness - has become quite unexceptionable, the supposedly difficult language they are couched in seems to have become more and more offensive to readers.

"Difficult" is the key word here. In the past, before the withering away of censorship, it was the depiction of sexuality and the bodily in general - together with anything smacking of anti-authoritarianism - that was perceived as difficult."

I hope I'm not being "difficult" here. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
United Peevers Front!


Peevers Liberation Party.
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strangely, "floccinaucinihilipilification", is not a "difficult" word, and very useful, too!

Just hope that no one floccinaucinihilipilificates this post. Shocked
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Phil_K,

That's easy for YOU to say.

But I'd never trifle with floccinaucinihilipilification; it's too valuable a word.

Regards,
John
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