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ajarn



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: Re: Dating & Mountain Biking Reply with quote

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Im not going to pass judgement on the intellectual level of women here, but most university students I meet are like high schools back home. Nice girls, like eye candy but not much else, in my opinion.

The high school girls are even worse in terms of maturity. Think Hello Kitty on 16 year old girls handbags.

Single women here live at home until their 30's have no expenses and high disposable income and many are spoilt rotten and think only of shopping and travel and dining in fancy restaurants. They hunt in packs.
Glenski mentioned they like 'cute' things but in talking to students etc I get the impression many of them are very shallow. All cute and candy floss and very little substance. Most read no newspapers or watch serious TV, or know whats going on in the world outside the latest fashions or TV idols etc. If you can live with, that be my guest.


Geez I'm glad someone else said that. I was beginning to think I was strange for feeling this way about Japanese women. I can see the attraction if you're in your early 20's but I'm a little past that now. I need a little intellectual stimulus in a relationship - that doesn't seem to be forthcoming from most Japanese women. I would add to the above, in Tokyo at least, they seem utterly fake - dyed hair, overly made-up but with absolutely no interests outside of their appearance and nothing to say. In a nutshell mindnumbingly boring. The old adage 'form over content' has been brought home to me in a big way with regard to Japanese females.
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Under certain circumstances I love mankind"--and referred thereby to Ariadne, who was present; "in my opinion man is an agreeable, brave, inventive animal, that has not his equal upon earth, he makes his way even through all labyrinths. I like man, and often think how I can still further advance him, and make him stronger, more evil, and more profound."--"Stronger, more evil, and more profound?" I asked in horror. 'Yes," he said again, "stronger, more evil, and more profound; also more beautiful"--and thereby the tempter-god smiled with his halcyon smile, as though he had just paid mankind the greatest of compliments.

-Nietzsche


I rather like the girls in Japan. They may appear to live simple lives that center around fashion and beauty, but their spirits are no less than yours or mine. They`ve just dropped an anchor in another part of the void.

And to be honest, I`m not entirely sure that a great deal more depth is to be found elsewhere. The J-girls simply disquise it a bit better. Make no mistake, they can be as ruthless and cunning as any. Outright vicious at times.

Put a dozen J-girls on an island vs a dozen foreign women...and the J-girls would eat them alive. Not unlike how the Teletubbies would make mince meat of the loveable gang from Sesame Street.

The J-girl is the quintessential beast of prey.

Best,
V.
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joncharles



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Vash! Everyone knows that Big Bird could take LaLa anytime .. Where's Don King when you need him Laughing
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Timuli



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH has hit it on the nail. Sounds like several of my students too.

But on the other side though, I think that japanese women are also incredibly kind, warm and caring. If they are serious about you they will almost do anything for you and for the relationship. They don't have the stereotypical selfish materialistic attitude of many back home.
On the flip side of THAT however is that it feels as if you are dating a servant, not a gf whom you want as an equal
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BenJ



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok if that's your verdict on the women, let's round it out and include opinions on the men too hey? You don't have one without the other...
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TEAM_PAPUA



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: sounds like... Reply with quote

sounds just like the overseas chinese in indonesia - the ones with the money walk around in a bubble clothed in the most ridiculous fashions(?) with crazy haircuts looking like something off a poorly made music video - and that's just the men Laughing tip toeing from their BMWs through the filth and past the beggers that surround the shopping malls.

with the exceltion of the filth, is this what to expect?

cheers for the responses, very enlightening & entertaining
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting thread!

I too have noticed that 99% of my female university students have little or no interest in things outside of fashion, pop music or cutesy things.

Many are in school to work on their MRS degree.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vash3000 wrote:

Uhh...you know I love you guys, but I believe a case has just been made for foreigners who come here just to shag.

Not that I approve or disapprove.

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V.



And catch syphilis, gonohorrhea, herpes and every STD known to man.
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese moan is often akin to the sound of a toddler wrestling with an injured and/or agitated crow.

Someone had to say it.
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David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP, what kind of riding are you into? Are you gonna bring your bike? Details mate please, none of the people on this forum really know much about the mtbiking scene in Japan.
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Jack Tripper



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to have cut off that last question- please respond to that first.

I do have a question of my own: if some japanese women are sincere, kind, and end up waiting on you "hand and foot" like a servant- is it possible to deture this behavior? I like to pull my own weight in relationships- cook, care for, wait on her at times too (not that it isn't nice to have that done to myself on ocassion). But would doing that be insulting? Any experiences out there?

PS- though I understand how this can be a "contentious" thread, I think its healthy to be open about this stuff. Its going on in our heads anyways, let get it out on the table.
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Synne



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Jack

In my experience with my Japanese girlfriend, the fact that we both contribute to the relationship has made the relationship so much stronger.

She would like to wait on me hand and foot but the fact that I dont let her, and that I often do what in Japan is considered "females work" (generalization I understand) makes her more comfortable and a lot more loving to me.

I believe that it would not be insulting at all for you to "pull your weight" in a relationship with a Japanese girl.

This is just from my experience though.
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TEAM_PAPUA



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 11:20 pm    Post subject: back to topic Reply with quote

In response to your question, I am into cross country single track (who isn't) I have a Giant XTC frame with various components & I'm hoping to bringing it with me, both to ride & to also upgrade while in Japan. I have my eye on a 2003 MCM Team Frame & some top end forks to match. I've seen that most of the major bike companies have stores in Japan and there seems to be a very good range available.

cheers
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon, are you on glue?

Let me give you a little rundown on what would happen to "Big Bird" if that freakoid mutant tangled with the Teletubbies...

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Fade into intro song, windmill spins, and Teletubbies running around madly.

"Hello"

A short recap of Big Bird wandering onto their hill...

Windmill spins, Teletubbies run around madly.

Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa, and Po all receive small transmission flashes on their tummies, but Laa-Laa receives the full transmission and is very happy.

The live action film is shown:

Kraken-sun-baby, always laughing and smiling and making Kraken noises (What a nice little baby, though), is laughin and smiling and making Kraken noises. The flowers sway in the wind, and talk in a very high squeaky voice, generally making caustic comments (that's flowers for you). And while Big Bird roasts over an open fire, the miniature dancing bear comes down from the sky and does a little tap dance for the gathered Teletubbies. Three ships sail into view, turn around in unison, sail this way and that, and then go off into the horizon. Then, King Pleasure & the Biscuit Boys sing a cool jazzed up version of "How to get to Sesame Street" watched by an appreciative selection of dancing, jumping Walsall children...

When it is over, the Teletubbies say "Again, again!"

The film is shown again.

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Geez...I think I just creeped myself out.

Best,
V.
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really into MTB here, particularily back country stuff. The scene is huge here, and I am lucky to live in a prime area for it. First, I wouldn't bother bringing your bike unless it's really good. The shipping will be expensive, and in Japan you can find excellent quality used bikes for great prices. The Japanese tend to want the newest gear, even if they can't ride worth a damn, so you can find 2003 models that have hardly been touched.
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