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sa2k
Joined: 01 May 2012
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Location: KSA
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| Bill Frawley wrote: |
Come on! The education at most Saudi institutions is a joke, anyway! Teaching ESL is the used car sales end of the education profession. These people who think they are "professional educators" in Saudi are idiots. I remember being in Korea and people with BA's calling themselves a "professor" because they teach Freshman English. In both cases, it's a complete joke. Lots of ESL teachers take themselves and their jobs way too seriously. Like I said, most ESL jobs in the ME are jokes anyway.
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rainbowprof
Joined: 18 Feb 2012
Posts: 133
Location: Penang
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| I worked for King Saud once upon time and cheating was a big issue back than also. But i noticed that some students didnt cheat because they deemed it as being incorrect and not in accordance with Islam. However many students are not really Islamic even though its an Islamic country. So I think ppl need to relax abit just becuase it is known as somewhat of an 'Islamic society' doesnt mean the people living in it share the same ideas. Secondaly, I blame the way they force students to learn English and pay them because most of them dont want to learn English some of them actully want to learn other languages and they really show a real intrest in other languages such as french and spanish etc. So most of them just want to pass and forget about English as soon as they leave the PYP. |
I thought the idea of PYEP was that they needed to pass English because most of the classes would be in English thereafter during their undergraduate study. |
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Grendal
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Posts: 861
Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Good evening everyone.
Regarding some mention to some policies at KSU or any other Ministry of Education Institutions in KSA it needs to be noted as discussed previously on this post that preparatory year here in KSA means everything, all courses included, and English language proficiency is only one of them. This is wrong. The ministry has to double time and get with it with elementary to high school curriculum so that by the time students reach university they study one year English only. Otherwise this system we are working in will get overloaded with too much for everyone to do, students included. One the other hand another possible solution could be to increase prep. year to two years and English will be the second year.
Looks like ministry officials know the problem quite well and are slow to act. I mean if I can sit here and gather a deduction like this, then these guys at the top, sure as pie, have thought of this.
Or maybe knot!
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