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CDNOttawa
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:34 am Post subject: College Experience only. |
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First time reader, and poster.
To all those with teaching experience in Asia and Taiwan.
What are the chances of finding employment with simply a Tesol Certificate and two College Diplomas in Law and Electrical Engineering.
Any information would be appreciated, |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: Re: College Experience only. |
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| CDNOttawa wrote: |
First time reader, and poster.
To all those with teaching experience in Asia and Taiwan.
What are the chances of finding employment with simply a Tesol Certificate and two College Diplomas in Law and Electrical Engineering.
Any information would be appreciated, |
If one or the other of your parchments says "Bachelor of _____" then you are good as gold and can work just about anywhere in Asia with the proper visas and permits.
If they are simply "Diplomas" and NOT a bachelors degree your chances for legal work (proper visas and work permits) are non existent in Taiwan and pretty much of the rest of Asia as well.
IF you are willing to fly and try on your own dime and are willing to work illegally on improper visas with regular border runs when they expire then there is work to be had in most of Asia. There are risks associated with doing it this way and few or no protections under the law if you are screwed by your employer or caught working by the relevant authorities.
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| You MIGHT get by with those in Japan (no promises; it is known as the land of case by case). It will be entry level work, for sure. |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| two College Diplomas in Law and Electrical Engineering |
Algonquin by any chance? |
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CDNOttawa
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
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| two College Diplomas in Law and Electrical Engineering |
Algonquin by any chance? |
Algonquin and La cite collegiale |
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CDNOttawa
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks all!
I know a lot of postings on the job board require an Assosiates degree in lieu of a Bachelors Degree.
An associates degree by defenition is a diploma from a community college. I wonder if this leaves me in the clear. |
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LongShiKong
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I think here in China, they're even your chances with a diploma are even better. |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| What are the chances of finding employment with simply a Tesol Certificate and two College Diplomas in Law and Electrical Engineering |
In China, 100%. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| CDNOttawa wrote: |
Thanks all!
I know a lot of postings on the job board require an Assosiates degree in lieu of a Bachelors Degree.
An associates degree by defenition is a diploma from a community college. I wonder if this leaves me in the clear. |
No, sorry, it doesn't. There's a reason why Algonquin's postgraduate TESL certificate requires an undergraduate degree, and will not accept a college diploma (even from their own college).
An "Associates Degee" from the US is not the same an Ontario community college diploma.
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| An associate degree is an undergraduate academic degree awarded by community colleges, junior colleges, technical colleges, and bachelor's degree-granting colleges and universities upon completion of a course of study usually lasting two years. In the United States, and to some extent in Western Canada, an associate degree is equivalent to the first two years of a four-year college or university degree. |
A college diploma MIGHT get you the first year off of a degree (depending on what it was in and what the university's policy is) in Ontario (just by removing breadth requirements) but I know several people who were given absolutely nothing for having a college diploma.
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In most parts of Canada, these two and three year programs at a community or technical college are never associated with the term "Degree" but are called a "College Diploma", as there used to be a strict difference between what was termed a "University" and an Applied Arts, Community, or Technical College. |
There still is that division in Ontario. There are joint programs, though, because they know that most university graduates basically have to go to a community college for a one-year post graduate certificate in something or a two year diploma in it. Universities sell programs so they set up joint programs to try to drum up customers (students) by shaving off a year here or there (when in fact, 'joint programs' are often three year bachelor degrees and a post-graduate certificate done concurrently, so they aren't really any different than just doing an 'ordinary' degree and then a post-grad certificate).
You're free to work in any country that doesn't require an undergraduate degree (like China), but not in a country like Japan (or likely Korea or Taiwan, either). Sorry. (And BTW, at least where I am, employers are very likely going to check up on educational qualifications to make sure that it's a 'real' university [not that Algonquin and La Cite Collegiale aren't 'real', but they aren't universities. Their purpose is different than universities']). |
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