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worldtraveller321
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Location: Canada
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 Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: No Degree but have TEFL Cert - Options |
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Hello all from Canada.
I have a TEFL certificate that I got about 3 years ago.
I am interested in wanting to teach english as second language in another country outside of North America etc.
I do not have a degree though.
But i do have other post secondary education? and on going studies in Computer Sciences.
I like to ask you all, what are my options for teaching for one who has no degree?
What country and organizations can i look at? that i would still qualify to be able to teach?
I really need help and assistance on this.
Anything would be great . Thanks |
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Glenski
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This seems to be getting asked more and more these days. I wonder why. Have you searched the forum for previous answers?
Your options are pretty limited. I'll let others tell you which countries you might consider.
As for Japan, if you are the right age, you could consider a working holiday visa (no degree needed) and work for no more than one year. Could be PT or FT work, and traditionally you are not supposed to have one FT employer the whole year.
My advice as usual is to invest in the degree. Others can explain why. |
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spiral78
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Teacher in Rome
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| My advice as usual is to invest in the degree. Others can explain why. |
Certainly the case for the majority of work you'd be likely to get in Italy (and western Europe) though this is unlikely to be a possibility for you anyway unless you also hold dual citizenship.
With the cost of a degree rising to �9000 per year in the UK (and calculating that fee for three years minimum, living costs etc on top) I wouldn't advise anyone to invest in a degree if they wanted to see a return on investment any time soon from ELT. You'd have to work a lifetime just to cover the costs! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| My advice as usual is to invest in the degree. Others can explain why. |
With the cost of a degree rising to �9000 per year in the UK (and calculating that fee for three years minimum, living costs etc on top) I wouldn't advise anyone to invest in a degree if they wanted to see a return on investment any time soon from ELT. You'd have to work a lifetime just to cover the costs! |
So the alternative is to continue to scrounge through the shrinking pool of mediocre-paying TEFL jobs that still don't require a degree? |
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Teacher in Rome
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| So the alternative is to continue to scrounge through the shrinking pool of mediocre-paying TEFL jobs that still don't require a degree? |
If you want to try out TEFL for a year or so, I'd say going to all the expense of a three-year degree might not be the best use of your money. You very probably won't see a return on your investment. (Compare other professions, for example, where post-degree salaries are a lot higher, and you'd see a return much quicker.)
If you were going to be in it for the long-haul, studying for a degree (at the very minimum) makes sense.
Very much a personal call, but I certainly wouldn't get myself into a whole pile of debt to be "qualified" for an industry that didn't pay much.
I think the OP (and others in the same boat) are in a difficult position. There are lots of grads out there - many of whom can't find work back home. Competition is high. Wages are not. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the OP (and others in the same boat) are in a difficult position. There are lots of grads out there - many of whom can't find work back home. Competition is high. Wages are not. |
The OP is not a grad, though. Not a college grad, anyway.
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| If you want to try out TEFL for a year or so, I'd say going to all the expense of a three-year degree might not be the best use of your money. |
Perhaps true, but as suggested earlier, without a degree, one is very limited to job choices and locations, and this may also include length of time (as with Japan).
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| If you were going to be in it for the long-haul, studying for a degree (at the very minimum) makes sense. |
I guess, then, it's up to the OP to decide how long they want to be in the game (at least how long they figure at this point in time). At some point, though, a decision has to be made either way about long-term vs. short-term. |
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spiral78
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[quote]Teacher in Rome wrote:
I think the OP (and others in the same boat) are in a difficult position. There are lots of grads out there - many of whom can't find work back home. Competition is high. Wages are not.
Glenski:
The OP is not a grad, though. Not a college grad, anyway.[/quote]
It's abundantly clear that the OP is not a grad. He and others like him ARE in a very difficult position, as TIR points out, being in competition with job candidates who do have degrees.
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Sashadroogie
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| When did anyone suggest that the OP was a graduate? Surely the title says it all? |
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