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Value of university TESOL certificate?

 
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Vince



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Value of university TESOL certificate? Reply with quote

What would a TESOL certificate from a US university add to a teacher's marketability in Japan these days? I'll use my situation as an example: BA in English, six years of TEFL experience in Tokyo, post-baccalaureate cert in business. Would a TESOL cert add a significant boost to that?
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Kionon



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like in everything in Japan... it depends. There are some jobs that absolutely require TESOL/TEFL/CELTA certification and the like, but I feel those that require it (versus a vaguely worded preference) are in the minority. I think your BA and six years of experience are enough to qualify for most everything aside from good university positions for which you would need an MA and publications.

That said, if you are competing against individuals with a similar background to you, it might move you ahead by just enough to get the position. It isn't really something that can easily be predicted. I would say if the program is properly accredited, and you have the cash for it, and you're actually interested in the content, it can't hurt.
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jmatt



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Publications Reply with quote

The requirement for publications is pretty frustrating. For most ESL jobs at the college/university level in the US, it's almost never necessary, unless it's a tenure track position requiring a PhD. I understand that having been published demonstrates a certain level of professionalism, especially at top level institutions, and in a certification obsessed society like Japan (are certifications really necessary to swim or play tennis as a hobby???), I suppose it's not unusual. Seems more like a formality.

That said, anyone here have any experience with that? Aside from the usual suspects like TESOL Quarterly, any other ideas on where to publish?

Thanks!
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it more frustrating that other countries don't have the same requirement. If you are teaching a subject at university level, you should be actively researching to improve your field and publishing your findings. It's bad enough that shockingly low standards are accepted as the norm in most other ESL situations. Universities of all places should be insisting on a higher level of academic professionalism.

As for where to publish, there are many ESL and related journals out there. The best one to choose depends on your style (e.g. research or theory), topic and intended audience. If you can give us some idea of what you want to publish, I'm sure we can give you some suggestions.
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Kionon



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan does not require you to have publications in ESL unless ESL is what your MA is in, and even then...

My MA is in Government, minor in History, emphasis on Japanese Culture and Politics... and my one publication so far is in the area of Philosophy of Religion.

They just want to see that you can write well (and make you jump through hoops). Trust me, I doubt I'll ever need to discuss Christian epistemological constructs in a Japanese university English class...

Someone who teaches at a university, am I correct?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Publications Reply with quote

jmatt wrote:
That said, anyone here have any experience with that? Aside from the usual suspects like TESOL Quarterly, any other ideas on where to publish?
I can send you a document from a slightly old TESOL meeting that lists and describes in great detail about 100 publications. PM me for more.

Kionon wrote:
Japan does not require you to have publications in ESL unless ESL is what your MA is in, and even then...

My MA is in Government, minor in History, emphasis on Japanese Culture and Politics... and my one publication so far is in the area of Philosophy of Religion.
Try using that to get into a university here with a job teaching English, and you will fail 99.9% of the time, IMO.

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They just want to see that you can write well (and make you jump through hoops). Trust me, I doubt I'll ever need to discuss Christian epistemological constructs in a Japanese university English class...

Someone who teaches at a university, am I correct?
Universities want FT and more and more the PT teachers to show publications. Best ones are peer-reviewed journal publications, solo-authored, with international nature.

My uni is a science one, no liberal arts majors. They advertised for my position as MS in a science field with experience teaching English in Japan. Extremely few people could even come close to those requirements, which is why I got the job. Since I have been here, the school (with its publish or perish mentality stemming largely from the science teachers, not the few liberal arts teachers) looks at promotions mostly from how many professional papers you have authored. Tons of other rinky-dink things add fractions of points to the promotion application form (serving on committees, getting grants, doing community service, etc.), but by and large you don't move up unless you have a ton of pubs.

What field do they have to be in? Well, the science profs obviously have little choice but to publish in their fields. Most of the liberal arts teachers, too. I continue to remain special with my science background. I've published in EFL and science, before and after I got hired here. How much will the non-EFL publications count towards getting hired or promoted elsewhere should I decide to change jobs? Probably far less than they do here (unless I move to another uni that has a strong focus on science).

So, to say "Japan does not require..." is not exactly using the right words. Who is "Japan"? The university is who you need to consider, the department you are in (or service), and your role in the uni.
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