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Prof.Gringo
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| I love it when someone lays claim to what the 'norm' is. |
But there is definitely a standard salary and job situation for newcomers to TEFL Mexico. Normally, when someone comes here he/she can expect to make between $6,000 and $10,000 per month in any desirable location for most people (cities like Mexico City, Puebla, Queretaro, etc.). Those who find better jobs (1) have been in Mexico longer so have developed experience in TEFL in Mexico (not just TEFL mind you) or (2) are one of the very few percentage-wise who end up in a well-paid colegio or university from the start.
Everyone else coming here should expect a job offer with the above-mentioned salary range. The difference in these jobs will be the honesty and professionalism of your employer (namely, if you get paid what you're owed and on time), how much you like where you're actually working, and if you're employed legally with benefits (often you won't be). But the salary itself won't vary much. |
The pay range is exactly as stated, from $6,000-10,000 pesos per month, full-time. And getting a better wage depends on either building connections, networking and blasting resumes aka just good olf fashioned plain dumb luck. The fact that you have/don't have a degree, MA, TEFL/CELTA/DELTA etc really mean very little in Mexico. You have as much chance to get a coveted job with a whole list of quals and certs as you do with just a generic TEFL.
Better off to invest in some Spanish classes (I do agree with several posters  on this point, as you will be able to both teach English in Spanish  AND speak with all the other folks at the school, none of whom can usually speak English  , often the so-called English teachers among them  ) |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| the peanut gallery wrote: |
"Help" can be subjective no? Helpfully posting best case situations which are not the norm may not appear very helpful once a newbie plants his or her feet on the ground and are unable to duplicate similar measures of success.
TEFL in Mexico is not a meritocracy. Nepotism and cronyism reign supreme. Being an amazing teacher with an alphabet of certifications doesnt mean one is a sure bet to climb the career staircase. |
What can I say except:
ANOTHER GREAT POST!!!
EFL in Mexico has a ceiling and it is very difficult to break through it. Perhaps with luck, it can be done, but not by expecting to if you get certain quals (say a BA, CELTA, MA/DELTA) you will get this in return (a great gig in a uni with a secure & stable job, career growth, admin support, good pay, bennies etc).
Just doesn't work that way in Mexico.
If it did, where would there be room for all the nepotism and connections to come into play  |
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luckylibrarian
Joined: 21 Dec 2010
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Location: Atlanta,Kunshan,China
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Ok Thanks
They didn't even bother to call me today for an interview. They are off the list. I got a job offer in China instead. |
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EFLeducator
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ok Thanks
They didn't even bother to call me today for an interview. They are off the list. I got a job offer in China instead. |
Take it!!!! Trust me. |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ok Thanks
They didn't even bother to call me today for an interview. They are off the list. I got a job offer in China instead. |
Take it!!!! Trust me. |
Yes, China.... The People's Republic.
The land where dreams do come true and wooden chairs are made in factories by the thousands! |
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EFLeducator
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Prof.Gringo wrote: |
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| luckylibrarian wrote: |
Ok Thanks
They didn't even bother to call me today for an interview. They are off the list. I got a job offer in China instead. |
Take it!!!! Trust me. |
Yes, China.... The People's Republic.
The land where dreams do come true and wooden chairs are made in factories by the thousands! |
Jimmy would be happy if he weren't working at Target in Ft. Worth, Texas.
That TEFLing experience he had in China really paid off when he got back to the states. I tried getting him to stay in DF but after being there for two weeks and seeing the attitudes people have towards English in the great DF, he said no way. |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Prof.Gringo wrote: |
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| luckylibrarian wrote: |
Ok Thanks
They didn't even bother to call me today for an interview. They are off the list. I got a job offer in China instead. |
Take it!!!! Trust me. |
Yes, China.... The People's Republic.
The land where dreams do come true and wooden chairs are made in factories by the thousands! |
Jimmy would be happy if he weren't working at Target in Ft. Worth, Texas.
That TEFLing experience he had in China really paid off when he got back to the states. I tried getting him to stay in DF but after being there for two weeks and seeing the attitudes people have towards English in the great
DF, he said no way. |
Nothing beats a few years abroad in EFL just to return home and find that the best you can do with that shiny new TEFL stuff on your resume is make latte's at Starsucks or serve soft-pretzals with nacho cheese at Target...
Any wonder so many folks with a useless degree (dontcha just love lib arts?) and a few years of useless EFL exp. just keep going back for more? Better a hero in the 3rd world than a zero in the 1st world  |
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EFLeducator
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing beats a few years abroad in EFL just to return home and find that the best you can do with that shiny new TEFL stuff on your resume is make latte's at Starsucks or serve soft-pretzals with nacho cheese at Target... |
Right! Pretty accurate based on people I have known.
| Prof.Gringo wrote: |
| Any wonder so many folks with a useless degree (dontcha just love lib arts?) and a few years of useless EFL exp. just keep going back for more? Better a hero in the 3rd world than a zero in the 1st world |
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mejms
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing beats a few years abroad in EFL just to return home and find that the best you can do with that shiny new TEFL stuff on your resume is make latte's at Starsucks or serve soft-pretzals with nacho cheese at Target... |
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| Right! Pretty accurate based on people I have known. |
Any success in life really comes down to the person. Shiny degrees can get your foot in the door, but not knowing how to work can get you tossed out.
If someone gets a liberal arts degree and TEFL experience, they can cross over to a different field or move up in any one if that person knows how to present himself, sell himself, and take advantage of opportunities. But it's very possible that this same person hasn't learned any life skills while getting all those diplomas and certificates. Technical skills will get you a technical job. Life skills can get you whatever you want.
A career path isn't simply a well-paved highway in one single company or field. It's a path that you've got to make for yourself.
Nowadays if we could all stay in the same company and keep moving up the ladder for 30 years, maybe a lot of us would do it and it would be easier. But not many people stay in the same company for 30 years any more. So make things happen for you. |
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J Sevigny
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: Rent, jobs, Puebla |
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This post has veered wildly from rent to other matters. I'm just going to kick out some recent intel from Puebla in hopes of shining some light on things.
The VW Centro de Idiomas is paying about 12,000 a month before taxes for a 24 hour a week shift.
Another school called Angloamericano, which seems decent, pays 75 pesos an hour for on-site classes but doesn't promise anything in terms of how many classes might be available. I was told that the top earning teachers cap out at 4,000 to 7,000 a month. That may be optimistic.
Just my two cents. |
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