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Burl Ives



Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Location: Burled, PRC
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ludwig wrote:
'Anthyp', ...
''Teacher' Lindsay',...
'Windsorman1972', ...
'Stavrogin2001' and 'Klamm', ....
'Roger',...
'Lagerlout2006',...
'Struelle',...

Language sets everyone the same traps. It is an immense network of easily accessible wrong turnings. What we, Lude, have to do then is erect signposts at all the junctions where there are wrong turnings so as to help people past the danger points. Don't you think so?
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windsorman1972



Joined: 12 May 2004
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Location: China - Here for the Cheap Sex Only
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The problem, Burl, with a jackass like this, is that even if he felt obliged to correct 1000 people in response to his original post, they, not he, would be considered the source of the problem.

Ludwig - you are a pretentious, arrogant, boring, childish and anal-retentive asswipe of a human being.

You need to stay off this discussion forum and let the adults talk amongst themselves in peace.
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Diletante



Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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Location: Beautiful Shenzhen!
PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Windsorman1972 wrote:
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Ludwig - you are a pretentious, arrogant, boring, childish and anal-retentive asswipe of a human being.

You need to stay off this discussion forum and let the adults talk amongst themselves in peace.
You're wrong. Not about the first part; no argument there. But Ludwig's posts are the highlight of this forum; at least now that Batman and that weightlifter guy aren't active. We need someone who is obviously insane to keep things light and interesting.

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Do you even know what a Wittgensteinian proposition is? I doubt it.
Weren't you rolling on the floor over that? I loved it, at least. We need to learn to appreciate all the flavors of crazy garbage that are spewed out in this forum. That's what it's here for.
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Ludwig



Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
windsorman1972 wrote:
Ludwig - you are a pretentious, arrogant, boring, childish and anal-retentive asswipe of a human being.


'Windsorman1972', on behalf of the forum, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you yet again for yet another thoughtful, perceptive, and constructive post. We are very fortunate indeed to have you around. Your posts are, after all, so intellectually stimulating.
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laodeng



Joined: 07 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Terribly off-subject I'm afraid, but, Diletante, where in Virginia? This old Roanoke boy is in the midst of a massive nostalgia attack.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Has Ludwig read Wittgenstein ? I find it strange that he gets the name of his major work wrong.

Why are there so many pompous, self-important people among the posters here ? Is there something in the drinking water in China ?

Sometimes I wonder what the Chinese must make of all these Foreign "Experts" in their midst.
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Taiping04



Joined: 27 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just had to register and post. When I used to browse these pages some time back, one character who was an endless source of mirth was one "Bertrand". He used to fancy he was Bertrand Russell reincarnated I guess. He was a pompous jackass, a would-be academic and intellectual, who had somehow been reduced to living in a Hong Kong shoe box, and trying to teach Chinese kids to speak English. For whatever reason "Bertie", as he became known, was a chronic attention seeker. Dumped on by one and all, he never flinched. "Ludwig" [another philosopher] reminds me of him. Coincidence?
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lagerlout2006



Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ludwig no need to get snarly---lighten up!

I have read the Ray Monk bio of wittgenstein but I'm likely out of my element discussing the original texts...Propositions??? May I try...

"No 2 objects are exactly alike."

"Communication is not possible without defining your terms."

Ludwig himself thought his own work was unsatisfactory but I'm sure you disagree with him...As did his mentor Bertrand Russell...

And yes Scott47 there is something wrong with the drinking water here.

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Diletante



Joined: 20 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
laodeng wrote:
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Terribly off-subject I'm afraid, but, Diletante, where in Virginia? This old Roanoke boy is in the midst of a massive nostalgia attack.

Good to know that ol' Virginny is still represented in China. Raised in Fairfax, schooled in Harrisonburg, and now live in San Francisco, until my return to the PRC in July.

scot47wrote
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Why are there so many pompous, self-important people among the posters here ? Is there something in the drinking water in China ?

Your post betrays a terrible ignorance of the extant pedagogic system in China. It makes me suspect you possess not even the most rudimentary knowledge of linguistic determinism. Have you even read any of Benjamin Lee Whorf's works? Are you secretly impressed by my esoteric rambling? God, I hope so.

Seriously, there are a lot of pompous, self-important people among the posters here becauswe there are a lot of pompus, self-important teachers in China. Something about teaching bored fourteen year olds the difference between count and non-count nouns gives a lot of sorry sacks a feeling of omnipotence.
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