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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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blastermill wrote: |
No academic worth his salt would suggest forcing fellow instructors to have 35 hours with students. Is there any university in the world that has such an asinine policy? |
Lower tier university level employers in private colleges have some insane contact hours in the Gulf... plus split shifts... all for a lot less money.
I haven't heard this from anyone else, so I don't know how much of your understanding is accurate. The rumor mill is pretty out of control and I know that there are meetings on the horizon. Let the Fireworks begin...
BTW... private offices? ROTFLMAO Fat chance of that... they don't provide offices for the servant class (ie...TEFLers). We should live so long. I was also at HCT for some years and it was miserable and I got exactly zero done in the office chaos. The teachers were crammed into two large rooms which thus had about 20 phones one of which was ringing at all times as every kid had to call Mom... every relative also living in the area had to call in to their teacher cousin/sister/daughter/mother... a half dozen loud conversations in various languages going on all the time. The addition of another 20 irritating mobile rings these days must make it even grander. Teachers heading in and out to class... discussing what happened in class that day... students wandering in and out. This has always been one of my major beefs with Middle East education and it is only getting worse based on the posts here.
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squareandfair
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:50 am Post subject: |
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I have worked in two universities in the USA (California and Oregon); I have worked at a university in Sharjah and now am working at an affiliate university at Hamad Bin Khalifa University in Ed City in Qatar. At none of these universities have I been required to have more than 15 contact hours. Here at Ed City as a lecturer I have 10 or 12 contact hours. The rest of the time is for preparation, marking, review, assessments, etc. I have never heard of a university that makes lecturers sign a contract that requires them to have 35 on campus contact hours. It is insane and demeaning. It is an insult to teachers to treat them as 3rd class academics. [b]If an instructor is hired as an instructor then this should be respected. An instructor is not a teaching assistant. [/b]Name one university in the world when instructors have a contract for 35 teaching hours.
Even language institutes and schools usually only require 22 -24 contact hours unless you're working in China and even that I doubt. I worked briefly at an institute in Sharjah where I had 22 contact hours. Anything more was paid overtime. I also worked for a few years at ADWC where I had between 16-20 contact hours. And we did not have to sit there for 7 hours until the Claw turned up. T I quit - like dozens of others - because of this madperson and monstrous blob. Prior to that we had a very flexible time-management policy. Time onsite varies from college to college - some are more stringent than others. However, your description of the office is partially accurate - some HCT offices did not have the kind of raucus you are describing but I've been to colleges that did.
My friend, who is a Teaching Assistant at QU told me she has to clock in 35 hours. Although she has an MA she says she is classified l like technician or a secretary. It appears that the new Foundation Management wants to punish the QU Foundation English teachers by forcing them to accept the same demeaning contract conditions. It shows a complete lack of respect for the profession of ESL instructor, for educated and experienced staff. It is no surprise that so many teachers have quit - even forfeiting their gratuity because of late resignations - with such drastic policy changes. It is very clear that the Foundation English teachers are take the blame for linguistic issues not of their making. A university which treats its lecturers like 3rd rate employees is never going to be a first class institution. All around the city you see posters promote the professionalism of the university - evidently the real situation with regard to the English teachers is very different. QU should look at how instructors are treated at the Ed City Universities. We are accorded respect, excellent wages, decent accomodation and a workable teaching timetable. The QU teachers seem to have no voice and no options. My question is - will every QU lecturer be obliged to sign the same contract requiring them to be onsite and teach for 35 hours a week? If not, then it is clear that the English teachers are being targeted. Total disrespect. Absolutely outrageous. Nobody at Ed City would ever condone such a ridiculous and debasing contract. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Other than you (in each of your various names), you are the only source on the current rumor. Being on site for 35 hours is not uncommon. It was, in fact, exactly what was required at ADW/HCT in the UAE even twenty years ago. I would consider it the norm in national universities in the Gulf. In fact, many require 40 or more. I also know of universities that require clocking in and out around the Gulf.
As to the number of contact hours, we don't have anything yet from a more reputable source than you - whichever name you are posting under today.
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squareandfair
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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QU teachers have been offered a 35 hour contract. A friend emailed me this contract tidbit. Your comments are not on, either. Ed City universities offer a better deal, all teachers in Qatar know this. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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squareandfair wrote: |
QU teachers have been offered a 35 hour contract. A friend emailed me this contract tidbit. Your comments are not on, either. Ed City universities offer a better deal, all teachers in Qatar know this. |
Duh... of course... you say that as though it is not as it has always been. But the reality is that there are relatively few jobs at Ed city and a large proportion of them are teachers that these institutions bring from their home countries.
I repeat... it is 35 hours ON CAMPUS!! Thus far none of the teachers that I know there have heard anything about a raise in contact hours. Thus it is no different than the rest of the Gulf national universities. And BTW, the teaching hours around the Gulf are from 18-20 these days... and that continue to trend upward.
Let's try to keep things at least quasi-factual here... There is no question that QU is a chaotic mess right now, but let's try to avoid creative rumor-mongering.
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