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rainbowprof



Joined: 18 Feb 2012
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Location: Penang

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear rainbowprof,

An observation and a question:

1. Recruiters are notoriously inept at giving prospective recruits the right information;

2. Is your American friend in Saudi on a "legitimate work visa" (he/she would have an iqama, if so) or some kind of "business visa" (in which case a CBC would be irrelevant since your friend would be working there illegally)?

I agree with you about the US system and like the idea of a "spent convictions system.) One problem with that in the US is that many convictions are by state rather than federal jurisdiction, and the states can (and do) have different procedures:

" For adults, arrest and conviction records usually aren't automatically expunged or sealed after a period of years. You generally have to file a written application in court and follow various rules for expungement. These rules can be found in the laws of the state where the conviction or arrest was made.
For juveniles, court and arrest records are usually sealed automatically once a juvenile is arrested and a trial or "adjudication" begins. However, in most states, juveniles must file a written application to later have their records expunged or destroyed."

Yup, that was my link - the lack of geographical acumen among so many US citizens would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

Regards,
John


1. True, but in this case referring to direct hire. He was burned by recruiters before.

2. Iqama

Talking of humour, an acquaintance recently saw a criminal check record that listed all 'criminal ' history- this included an item that was marked as expunged. It was listed like this. "Shop lifting, under 18 y o., Expunged." Thanks for the help, big brother.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the FBI - looks like my ship finally came in this morning:

"OFFICIAL LETTER FROM FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION FBI
ROBERT MUELLER III EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FBI FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION FBI.WASHINGTON DC.
FBI SEEKING TO WIRETAP INTERNET
Email:[email protected]
ATTENTION: BENEFICIARY
FROM: ROBERT MUELLER III EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FBI FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION WASHINGTON DC. FBI SEEKING TO WIRETAP INTERNET
The federal bureau of investigation (FBI). Through our intelligence-monitoring
network has discovered that the transaction that the bank contacted you
previously was legal. Recently the fund has been legally approved to be paid
via Central Bank of Nigeria.
We the federal bureau of investigation (FBI) Washington Dc, in conjunction
with the United Nations (UN) financial department have investigated through
our monitoring network noting that your transaction with the Central Bank of
Nigeria legal. You have the legitimate right to complete your transaction to
claim your fund US$15.5, 000,000.00(Fifteen million five Hundred Thousand
united states dollars).
We the federal bureau of investigation decided to contact the FedEx Courier
Service Company in Nigeria for them to give us their procedures on how to send
this money to you without any further complain or delay. We just got an
information from the Central Bank of Nigeria that they have loaded your
US$15.5, 000, 000.00 in ATM CARD and submit to the FedEx courier service
company for immediate delivery to your doorstep.
You are required to choose one option from the below list which you will be
able to pay and also convenient for you, for quick delivery of your parcel
containing your ATM CARD and other two original back up documents.
Service Type | Delivery Duration | Charges/Fees
------------------------------------------------------
Premium Express (24hrs Delivery)
Mailing $200.00 00.00
Insurance $150.00 00.00
Vat $100.00 00.00
TOTAL $450.00
$450(Four Hundred and fifty US Dollars Only).
......................................................................
Special Express (2 Days)
Mailing $180.00 00.00
Insurance $50.00 00.00
Vat $150.00 00.00
TOTAL $380.00 00.00
$380(Three Hundred and Eighty US Dollars Only).
............................................................................
Economy Express (3Days)
Mailing $100.00 00.00
Insurance $150.00 00.00
Vat (5%) $50.00 00.00
TOTAL $300.00 00.00
$300(Three Hundred US Dollars Only).
....................................................................
You are hereby required to advice us, on your parcel delivery option by
filling in the required form stated above. Please note that the deadline for
claiming your fund is exactly one week after the receipt of this email. After
this period, your fund will be return back to the ordering costumer. That is
the instruction given to us .So take note.
We request that you reconfirm your mailing address to ensure conformity with
our record for immediate dispatch of your parcel to you. Only valid
residential/ Office address and postal address are certified OK.
DELIVERY DESTINATION INFORMATION:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Receiver's Name :.............................................
Address:......................................................
Tel/:.........................................................
Delivery Information/ Parcel Description
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Delivery Terms: .............. .......International Delivery
Condition Of Delivery..............Priority Delivery
Consignment Note No: ........... MI 49866-2110
Color of Parcel: ..................... Brown.
Total Weight: ..........................36.2 kg
Total Net Weight: ..................1.7 kg
We are here to protect you from any problem till you receive your package. You
can as well get in touch with the FedEx Delivery Company assigned to deliver
this financial package to your doorstep.
Below is the delivery companies contact information:
Companies Name: Federal Express Courier Service.

Directors Name: Mr. Ben Morgan

Email:[email protected]

Telephone Number:+234-813-110-0064

Looking forward to hear from you as soon as you receive this message.
Yours Sincerely,
Robert S. Mueller III
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue,
NW Washington, D.C.
20535-0001, USA."

Don't worry - I'll remember all the little people I've met along the way Very Happy

Regards,
John
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rainbowprof



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one for $450 looks like the best deal.
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rainbowprof



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just confirmed with fellow teacher working in Saudi that she didn't need a police clearance but in her case she is working for ripoff recruiters who have failed to come up with an iqama. No surprises there. And they haven't paid her half of what they owe her. Tip your hat to Al Khaleez. Nothing new under the sun.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear rainbowprof,

And, of course, she has no recourse since she's working there illegally.

I feel sorry for her.

Regards,
John
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PatrickT



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan is sounding extremely promising. I just wish Korea immigration would smarten up and actually look at the background checks instead of brushing off someone who could make the school money. Oh well. I'll take my business elsewhere for now.
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