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Katieteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:49 am    Post subject: University jobs? Reply with quote

Hi all, I have read through the posts but I would like to be clear in my information so apologies if these questions are duplicated.

I have 5 years teaching experience in Korea, TEFL cert and I'm enrolled in a masters in TESOL, my boyfriend has the same qualifications but isn't doing the masters.

1) are we qualified for uni positions? My research seems to suggest so.
2) what salary should we be looking for? There seems to be a wide range in the pay offered.
3) what working hours and holidays would be involved? A lot of adverts I've seen don't seem to mention holidays.
4) what other school / teaching institutions would offer longer holidays than the 10 days I currently fight to get in Korea?
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Katieteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and when is the best time to look or apply for jobs?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katieteacher wrote:
Oh, and when is the best time to look or apply for jobs?


April or May, but schools are still hiring if they have not found anyone yet.


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twilothunder



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: University jobs? Reply with quote

Katieteacher wrote:

4) what other school / teaching institutions would offer longer holidays than the 10 days I currently fight to get in Korea?


A-Level Schools - you get about 8 weeks off in summer as standard.

Highly competitive to get in the door because they pay well as well - even more difficult if you're an English teacher rather than a subject teacher, but not impossible with your Masters and experience.

You will have much more chance than your boyfriend, I expect.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: University jobs? Reply with quote

Katieteacher wrote:
Hi all, I have read through the posts but I would like to be clear in my information so apologies if these questions are duplicated.

I have 5 years teaching experience in Korea, TEFL cert and I'm enrolled in a masters in TESOL, my boyfriend has the same qualifications but isn't doing the masters.

1) are we qualified for uni positions? My research seems to suggest so.
2) what salary should we be looking for? There seems to be a wide range in the pay offered.
3) what working hours and holidays would be involved? A lot of adverts I've seen don't seem to mention holidays.
4) what other school / teaching institutions would offer longer holidays than the 10 days I currently fight to get in Korea?


1)Yes. Your masters, when granted, will be worth about RMB 500 additional per month for a typical university. Not much. It will also, however, make you more attractive to the schools, as will having a fellow-teacher partner to share accommodations.

2) RMB4000-9000 each for typically 16-20 hours per week with weekends usually free. Western provinces and poorer provinces usually pay less. Areas that attract a lot of foreigners usually pay less. The range is more geographical than depending on your experience and qualifications. Best combo would be in a wealthy province in a smaller city near a major city for lower cost of living and still a decent salary. Famous universities don't pay more than lower-level ones for English instruction.

3) Usually weekdays mornings and afternoons. Sometimes evening classes. Weekends usually free but for major holidays, they often move classes to the weekend before or after the holiday. You will likely be paid over the Spring Festival (Chinese New Year) if you begin in September or over the summer if you begin the second term in late February or early March. That's over a month in each case.

4) Don't know.

5) Salary is important, but you should add all wages and benefits together before selecting which school is better financially. Besides the typical salary, universities either provide private accommodation, a travel stipend (2000-2200 RMB/year), sometimes utility allowances (example you might pay the electricity bill above RMB300/month), and either an airfare refund (return) from your home country, or increasingly, a lump sum amount at the end of the year or in installments which will probably not cover your airfare in full.

6) Some universities, such as in Zhuhai, Guangdong prefer to pay hourly, with a minimal monthly salary. And in Beijing or Shanghai, especially, you might get an additional allowance instead of accommodation to find your own apartment. Other universities will offer you on-campus housing but may be willing to give you a housing allowance if you insist on living off-campus. Others may not be willing.

7) With university teaching, you will probably have time for side work, often provided by the university itself. Your contract may specify no outside work, or it might stipulate that you need to inform the school and/or get permission.

The school year is September to July.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: University jobs? Reply with quote

1) are we qualified for uni positions? My research seems to suggest so.


The fellow working in the little college in the town I'm in is in his late 50's, no education nor experience worth mentioning. Recently laid off factory worker from America.

Qualifications do not really matter because there are more than enough people to do your job at a lower pay live in squalor conditions without pay.

I'd say that the better the school, then yes, the more qualifications they want. A Scotsman I know in Beijing teaches at the university level and he ha a raging drinking problem. His qualifications are from Printshop Pro Inc.

Unless you have a Master's from Harvard or some Ivy school, they will seldom check your "qualifications".

Are you white? Yes? A native English-speaker? OK then, you are qualified.

2) what salary should we be looking for? There seems to be a wide range in the pay offered.

The guy in Beijing reaps 7K a month. The fellow in the town where I am in gets around 6K. Far, far,far less than Korea. Also think in terms of housing. Many unis have on-campus housing and there is a curfew. You get locked out or have to ask security permission to get back in at night. Lots of horror stories there...

3) what working hours and holidays would be involved? A lot of adverts I've seen don't seem to mention holidays.

If you are lucky, you will get entire summers off with pay-- but this comes with the cavet of staying on another year usually.

Winter holidays can be several weeks in length for Chinese New Year.

4) what other school / teaching institutions would offer longer holidays than the 10 days I currently fight to get in Korea?

Public schools. No kids go to regular class during holidays. Watch out for being sucked into private classes during holidays though. This is where your minder makes a lot of money and the whole reason we foreigners end up here in the first place: to make someone wealthy.
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