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How do you move your stuff from one city/country to another?
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myownwoman



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: How do you move your stuff from one city/country to another? Reply with quote

I cannot believe I just realized this, but how do you move your boxes of stuff to a new teaching location? Of course it will be easier within the country but how about from S Korea to China, for example?

What moving company do you use? How do you keep your sanity afloat? What do you recommend when moving day comes?

Thanks all! Very Happy
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't any one moving company per se; it depends on where you are and where you're heading. But generally, you'd shop around for the best country-to-country shipping rates offered through the various major air freight companies in your area. However, some teachers prefer to pack their stuff into extra suitcases and pay the additional baggage costs, while others try not to accumulate too much stuff and most likely dump, sell, or give away items to keep the load light. Sometimes it's cheaper to just buy replacement items in your new location.
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EFLeducator



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you move your stuff from one city/country to anot Reply with quote

myownwoman wrote:
I cannot believe I just realized this, but how do you move your boxes of stuff to a new teaching location? Of course it will be easier within the country but how about from S Korea to China, for example?

What moving company do you use? How do you keep your sanity afloat? What do you recommend when moving day comes?

Thanks all! Very Happy


Most of us professional TEFLer's do not have much to move because of our little salaries.
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Asian countries have very efficient, competitively priced post office systems. It's probably worthwhile checking out the size range of boxes from the P.O directly as well as the costs of air or sea freighting them. Of course you need an address to send them to and that can be problematic unless you have contacts in the new place, or can send them to a new employer's address.

If you do it this way, just make sure you know the opening days/hours of your local or nearest P.O and how you're going to get boxes there if you have a lot of stuff you really want to keep.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: How do you move your stuff from one city/country to anot Reply with quote

EFLeducator wrote:
Most of us professional TEFLer's do not have much to move because of our little salaries.


Only if you are foolish enough to work in the America's (north or south) or western Europe and/or have no qualifications and/or abilities as a teacher.

EFL is pretty lucrative in Asia with SAVINGS potential in the US$12,000-20,000 per year possible.

It all depends on what you are moving.
As mentioned above, a lot of people sell off the bigger stuff and either post or carry the remainder with them.

I sent 20 (#5) boxes of stuff via surface post from Korea to the Philippines for about $400.

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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh you can just fine in the Americas as well - with those qualifications and abilities of course.

I've been thinking about this question too lately...you can use shipping companies anywhere from Panama up to Mexico via truck to go north to US/Canada but I think the costs are enormous.

The longer you're in a place the more you accumulate. I think I'd have to have a big yard sale as I wouldn't want to pay 1000's of dollars for the move.

How long would it take to move your things from Asia to North America by ship I wonder? Anyone ever done this?
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Oh you can just fine in the Americas as well - with those qualifications and abilities of course.

I've been thinking about this question too lately...you can use shipping companies anywhere from Panama up to Mexico via truck to go north to US/Canada but I think the costs are enormous.

The longer you're in a place the more you accumulate. I think I'd have to have a big yard sale as I wouldn't want to pay 1000's of dollars for the move.

How long would it take to move your things from Asia to North America by ship I wonder? Anyone ever done this?


Space Available and by the piece it takes 3-6 months.
Ship a container (20' or 40') and it is weeks (door to door and assuming there is no holdup at customs - more of an issue for Americans).

With Canadians, if you have been abroad for a year or more and file the appropriate paperwork you get $10,000 worth of household stuff to bring (follow you) back without customs hassles, fees or duties.

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EFLeducator



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Oh you can just fine in the Americas as well


Not really. I know...it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it is a simple reality.
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLeducator wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:
Oh you can just fine in the Americas as well


Not really. I know...it's a bitter pill to swallow, but it is a simple reality.


Certainly there are opportunities to be had in international schools, but I've got to go with EFLeducator on this one. I don't know any ESL teachers here in Colombia who would have managed to accumulate any amount of 'stuff' worth shipping based on their salaries here. Salaries preclude having a family and raising children and when you try to live at a higher point, cost of living goes through the roof - well above US levels (think private education, buying a car, and living in a clean, relatively safe neighborhood with a modernish apartment). The only ESL teachers I've seen here who can manage to have children have only 1 child, both mother and father work full time, and they have one of the highest paying teaching jobs in the country. The rest wouldn't even consider it...sorry, I'm overstating things just a touch, but that's my rant for the day.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colombia sounds hard then...ELFEducator never got around to what you can do with proper qualifications here in Mexico though. The international schools are the very top paying jobs here yes, but you don't have to go that high up to see proper returns.

On topic - my cousins hired a van to move a fair amount of furnishings from Mexico City to Merida, Mexico last year (a 24 hour drive or so) and that set them back about 3000 dollars.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you could stop accumulating stuff. I bring books over and then either donate them to students/schools or to charity shops when I get back to Blighty. Serously though, I occasionally have a box or two, which I send via the local postal service (a bit difficult if it's the Russian pochta, but that's another story).
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remax Laughing

It was expensive but the company covered it.

(However, you also need a husband whose company transfers him and you just tag along as the TESL wife....)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
Remax Laughing

It was expensive but the company covered it.

(However, you also need a husband whose company transfers him and you just tag along as the TESL wife....)


Figures. This happens a LOT in TEFLing. One of the people in the "relationship" will make the (little) money while the other stays home and/or has some type of a part-time gig and call it a career.

Rolling Eyes

As soon as you said Remax, I knew there had to be a real source of income since TEFLing would never pay enough for one to use Remax.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The government of Canada paid for Remax Laughing There is no way a person could afford that move on a TEFL salary, not even for a PhD ticket to the oil lands of Arabia... Cool

BTW I have a degree in TESL, I still consider it a career with part-time hours Laughing But it's hard to go full-time when you've got 2 babies under 2 years old to care for.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Oh you can just fine in the Americas as well - with those qualifications and abilities of course.

How long would it take to move your things from Asia to North America by ship I wonder? Anyone ever done this?


In the end I was making about 3 times the salary than when I started in South America and had a house with furniture and an SUV that I left behind, Free and clear of mortgage and loans. I worked myself to the bone though. And make at least double what my highest salary was in SA, this Feb I made nearly 7 times that. I don't think I could go back to living in SA.

In 2004 it took 2 months. I shipped a couple of boxes via China post to the US.

As for the OP's question: I try to sell as much furniture as I can. Ditto for appliances. I go to a monthly swap, so try to live simply and get stuff for free that way. Even though I try to sell things, I often end up giving them away for free via Craigslist or our swap's FB page. I personally don't HAVE a lot of things. All my clothes and shoes can fit into one large suitcase and I just took a lot of paperwork to my parents' house.

Life simply and try to get things for free that way when you leave you can pass it on.
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