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Getting out of a job in China???

 
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LeopoldBloom



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:24 am    Post subject: Getting out of a job in China??? Reply with quote

This is just a post about how to get out of a job in China once you are there.

Due to the new regulations you will need a letter from your previous employer. Generally speaking, if you left because you were unhappy with your employer or he/she is not honest-- ha too bad! Big brother doesn't care. This is not the place for worker's rights, not for Chinese or foreigners. You'll basically have fly back to your home country and look for work fresh again. Great deal!

What a deal, eh? Ya, right! Only if you are so naive or so desperate that bonded servitude doesn't sound so bad.

Do not, repeat, do not, take any job teaching in China unless you've checked, double-checked, triple-checked, everything and everything and are sure beyond a shred of a doubt. By and large your salary will be low and the power is totally in your employer's hands. It's very risky at least.

Bloom.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Getting out of a job in China??? Reply with quote

LeopoldBloom wrote:
This is just a post about how to get out of a job in China once you are there.

Due to the new regulations you will need a letter from your previous employer. Generally speaking, if you left because you were unhappy with your employer or he/she is not honest-- ha too bad! Big brother doesn't care. This is not the place for worker's rights, not for Chinese or foreigners. You'll basically have fly back to your home country and look for work fresh again. Great deal!

What a deal, eh? Ya, right! Only if you are so naive or so desperate that bonded servitude doesn't sound so bad.

Do not, repeat, do not, take any job teaching in China unless you've checked, double-checked, triple-checked, everything and everything and are sure beyond a shred of a doubt. By and large your salary will be low and the power is totally in your employer's hands. It's very risky at least.

Bloom.


I remember my posts like this in the summer of 2008. I think what you should be telling people is different from what you are telling them. It is not easy to find a new job, and your old employer can try to make it worse. Don't bite the HK can't do it bait.

I feel your pain, but it is not universal truth. Why not let us in on the whole story?
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GeminiTiger



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a new regulation at all, it's very old.

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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually if you left on good terms and they are too spiteful to give you the required documents you are in trouble. Just ask the three teachers who finished their contracts along with me, told the employer they didn't want to stay another year, and the employer refused to give them the necessary parting documents required to get another job in China.

And WHO to turn to?

No one to help you at all.
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
Actually if you left on good terms and they are too spiteful to give you the required documents you are in trouble. Just ask the three teachers who finished their contracts along with me, told the employer they didn't want to stay another year, and the employer refused to give them the necessary parting documents required to get another job in China.

And WHO to turn to?

No one to help you at all.


Next legit employer.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ actually that is true. HOWEVER it caused my new employer much extra work. They had to complain to the Foreign Expert Bureau and go have a meeting with them to FORCE the old employer to do what they were supposed to do - cancel the FEC, issue the reference and release letters.

In the meantime, I was supposed to leave China July 15 BUT I am still here - and waiting on a new RP and FEC book.

All because my past employer wants to get even for me not staying another year there.
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LeopoldBloom



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the poster who responded on to "Who to turn to?" with "Next legit employer" you are mistaken, bigtime! It is hard and fast policy-- which happens to clique with Chinese pride nicely too, so even the small minority of decent Chinese employers would hold to it anyway-- that you must have a req letter from your last employer if you worked in China previously. Search for yourself on this. This is big brother policy since 2008. It's required by the government and law and excepting some rural and far and away provinces and cities, there's often no way around it.

Bloom.
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7969



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ought to change your name to doom or gloom because most of your posts are along those lines . . .
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LeopoldBloom



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually a very positive person. I'm trying to help people avoid the misery of being exploited as a TEFL in China.

Bloom.
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