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naturegirl321
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Location: home sweet home
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Living in Europe might be hard without an EU passport.
Age is also a factor, many jobs cap at 50, 55 or 60.
How about retiring abroad? |
Thanks for the reply.
We'd like to live abroad for part of the year, then return to see family. Hope to repeat this in following years.
Wanted to work b/c we want to 1) offset some living expenses; 2) get to know other people including locals; and 3) keep occupied.
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I know thta in Peru, if you can prove 1K a month, then you can get a retirement visa here. I think Thailand has 12K or 15 K for a year, then you get a gvisa. |
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Vchick81
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: Life after ESL?? |
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Has anyone thought about staying in a place long enough to master the native language there and get a job as a translator in the US?
I can't tell you how many jobs I have been offered because I speak Arabic. And they pay well! |
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kezzaNZ
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| I think I may ignore your advice and take my chances!! |
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antonia v
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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Location: On a Short Leash
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Why the bump? What info are you looking for from a two year old thread?'
Holy crow, this thread originated in 2002 - it's a decade old! Who/what are you trying to ressurect here??? And why? Into zombies? |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd be interested to know whether the advice offered through this thread carries water at present. |
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naturegirl321
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It depends on a lot of things, you especially. If you're a go-getter, willing to put in hard work, get more qualifications, experience, network, etc then you can get jobs. If not, then you'lll be stuck at the same low rung of the ladder. BUt that holds true for most jobs.
Incidentally, I just came across this, I've been through the first three pages, teacher isn't on those, but what makes a good job varies person to person. Most of these jobs are in the sciences or math-related. Which might be good if you like those areas, if not, then it's not really a perfect job, is it? http://www.careercast.com/jobs-rated/jobs-rated-2010-ranking-200-jobs-best-worst
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http://www.careercast.com/jobs-rated/10-best-jobs-2011 |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| I'd be interested to know whether the advice offered through this thread carries water at present. |
yes and no.
IF you only have a HS diploma and a 30-day tefl cert there are few options and all of them quickly hit the glass ceiling and have no future or real income potential.
If you have a generic BA and a TEFL cert to go along with a passport from an anglophone country then Asia is wide open and the entry level packages aren't that bad.
If you find you actually like being a teacher then there is a career path and upward mobility as well as career stability (as a teacher not necessarily in any particular location or country).
If you are hoping to get rich then nope. Teaching is firmly planted in the middle class.
Can you make decent money in the ESL/EFL/education industry = YES.
Entry level jobs with base salaries in the US$24k range plus a nice benefit package (housing, medical, nice paid vacations, sometimes airfare) are easily available.
Above the entry level there are paths to follow with salaries rising to the US$40k range + benefits. These are usually working further into academia (becoming a uni lecturer) or gaining accreditation as a legitimate teacher (something beyond a CELTA).
At the top end, working in some of the best "international" schools the base salaries top out at US$100k + benefits.
Other options include getting into administration, publishing, writing, curriculum development, research, the lecture circuit (conferences, symposiums and workshops), etc. and the salaries top out in the range of US$250k per anum.
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bearbit
Joined: 13 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Advice for newbies: CHANGE CAREERS BEFORE IT�S TOO LATE |
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See quote Below
RE: returning after teaching ESL. Yes you may be starting over but there are choices
A: if you can develop the right connections before coming back home you can consult as liason with north american and overseas companies.
B: Take your skills to the north american aboriginal communities and show them there is life outside of north america
C: do like everyone else in north america join the rat race. You are not unique in starting over. Many who have never had your experiences are starting over again and again and again.
Jim
52 years old. Starting over again by trying to teach anything, anywhere.
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Hi Newbies,
I�m a veteran ESL teacher, having taught in Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and the USA. Here�s the best advice I can give to anyone starting out in this field: CHANGE CAREERS BEFORE IT�S TOO LATE. And by too late, I mean before you�re married, have children and other responsibilities, and cannot afford the disruption in your life and income that a career change entails. Don�t get me wrong; I love teaching, and I love teaching English. Teaching is (sometimes) very satisfying, and teaching ESL has allowed me to travel the world, but I can�t go home again.
When you�re young, you don�t think of the future�I certainly didn�t. Teaching ESL seems like a really cool way to travel and get paid for it, and it is for a few years, but what about 25 or 30 years? Someday you�ll get married, and then someday you�ll have a child, and maybe another, and maybe another. That may not be part of your plan, but it has a way of just happening (especially the children part). After a few years abroad, you�ll want to return to your country. Maybe because you�ve satisfied your wanderlust, maybe because you don�t want you children to be strangers in their own country, maybe because you want to be close to your parents in their final years, and guess what�you won�t be able to. You won�t have a prayer of finding a job in your own country that will give you anything like the lifestyle you�ve become accustomed to. In fact, you won�t have a prayer of finding a full-time job at all. To support your family you�ll have to patch together two or three part-time jobs. You�ll be working day and night, and your office will be your car. And forget about health insurance for you, your wife, and your children. Your employer (if you have one) won�t provide it, and there�s no way you�ll be able to afford it.
Am I bitter? No. Am I blaming anyone? No. This is the life I have made for myself, and it isn�t that bad. I�m making pretty good money, but I�ve had enough of living abroad, and I�d like to go home, but there�s no way. So my earnest advice to anyone considering a career as an ESL teacher is DON�T DO IT. If you're smart, literate, and articulate enough to be an ESL teacher, there are plenty of other things you�d be good at too. If you are determined to go abroad, at least get a teaching certificate before you go. Not only will it open some doors abroad, it�ll help you get a decent teaching job when you return.
Viracocha |
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