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Alpha Murdock



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:11 am    Post subject: How can I make my dream a reality? Reply with quote

Can you tell me if my dream-life plan will even work?

BACKGROUND: My girlfriend and I will be getting married before we execute this entire plan, if that matters for visa purposes. I'm a professional writer. It's a job I can do from anywhere in the world remotely and I make a steady $85k USD per year + benefits from an international corporation. I have a BA and a Masters in English with a focus in writing, and 2 years teaching experience as a TA, but no ESL certs.

My girlfriend works as a elementary school teacher with a specialty in ESL. Again, by the time we save up enough and move toward this she will have several years of American public school teaching under her belt. No teaching-abroad-type ESL certs but she is a certified public school teacher in Texas with her state ESL certification.

We both have several years of experience teaching ESL at volunteer schools here in the US (we live in Texas so there are plenty of such opportunities).

THE DREAM: We don't ever plan on having children. I am very burned out on the corporate rat race and we are both suffering from a bit of wanderlust. I would love for the two of us to sell what we own and work abroad for an indefinite period of time, jumping from country to country every year of six months (unless we find a place that suits us) where she could teach ESL, preferably to children but she has experience with adults as well, and I could continue my writing career and continue to draw the same salary.

So now the questions:

1)) Would whatever visa she received for teaching cover me too? Would I be able to work for an international company (based in the US) and draw the salary I do abroad legally? What would this mean for me taxation-wise?


2) ) Are there some ESL schools or certifications that are better than others? We are both open to pursuing the necessary certifications to make this happen.

3) She has asthma and gets bad migraines. She takes regular medication for both that would be prohibitively expensive without insurance. Is it hard to find jobs abroad that will cover the cost of medical insurance?

4) Are a lot of good schools / placements unlikely to take on someone who is married that is bringing along a spouse?

5) I am willing to teach part time while I'm abroad (my job is very easy for me and doesn't take me too much time). I would eventually like to make the transition to teaching at the University level back in the US one day. What would be the likelihood that I might be able to acquire experience teaching at the university level abroad with a degree in English, a masters degree and an ESL certification?

Thanks everyone in advance. This site is a a great resource and I look forward to becoming part of your community.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: How can I make my dream a reality? Reply with quote

Alpha Murdock wrote:
Can you tell me if my dream-life plan will even work?
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So now the questions:

1)) Would whatever visa she received for teaching cover me too? Would I be able to work for an international company (based in the US) and draw the salary I do abroad legally? What would this mean for me taxation-wise?


2) ) Are there some ESL schools or certifications that are better than others? We are both open to pursuing the necessary certifications to make this happen.

3) She has asthma and gets bad migraines. She takes regular medication for both that would be prohibitively expensive without insurance. Is it hard to find jobs abroad that will cover the cost of medical insurance?

4) Are a lot of good schools / placements unlikely to take on someone who is married that is bringing along a spouse?

5) I am willing to teach part time while I'm abroad (my job is very easy for me and doesn't take me too much time). I would eventually like to make the transition to teaching at the University level back in the US one day. What would be the likelihood that I might be able to acquire experience teaching at the university level abroad with a degree in English, a masters degree and an ESL certification?

Thanks everyone in advance. This site is a a great resource and I look forward to becoming part of your community.


1) Yes, if you are married and she has a visa that allows her to legally work you can join her as a "dependent spouse".

2) Not needed if she is a licensed teacher in her home country.
Teaching kids in English is probably a better choice for her than teaching EFL.

3) Outside of the States the medical costs rapidly become a non-issue.

As an example, asthma meds are available OTC in most Asian countries and are CHEAP by comparison to the states:
Ventolin evohaler (Salbutamol sulfate) for about $5,
Ventolin nebules (box of 20) for $12,
Singulair (generic name - Montelukast) for $30/month.
Advair ( Seretide in Asia) / Fluticasone/salmeterol) for $20

Some countries have national health care (Canada, UK, Korea, Japan etc) that is available to everyone who is legally resident and in others the costs of care are often less than the cost of insurance.

There are affordable medical insurance packages available as well (BUPA, World Nomads, AIG, etc.). Better international schools include medical insurance, others usually do not (unless there is a national health care option).

4) I have never had a problem bringing my spouse along with me.

5) Anywhere from not likely to excellent - depending on the country of choice.

Short term placements (less than 1 year) will be much harder to come by and you are not likely to recover your setup costs if you jump from country to country if you do it frequently
OR
you won't find a decent job - lots of backpacker opportunities but the remuneration packages are nothing to write home about.

Most of the better paying options will ask for 1 or 2 year contracts.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: How can I make my dream a reality? Reply with quote

Your questions about schools, med insurance, and such are difficult to answer because you didn't specify where in the world you want to go. What countries are at the top of your list? Which ones are a total no-go for you?

By the way, teaching English in a non-English speaking country is typically referred to as EFL not ESL.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: How can I make my dream a reality? Reply with quote

Alpha Murdock wrote:
jumping from country to country every year of six months (unless we find a place that suits us)
Depending on the country, I'd say focus on the whole year. For example, most employers here in Japan have contracts for that length of time, not less.

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So now the questions:

1)) Would whatever visa she received for teaching cover me too? Would I be able to work for an international company (based in the US) and draw the salary I do abroad legally? What would this mean for me taxation-wise?
As tttompatz wrote, and from my perspective (Japan), yes, you can become her dependent and do what you please. Tax-wise, you still have to file in the U.S. If you want to work in Japan, you can, with easily had special permission, but only up to a certain salary. After that, you are no longer a dependent.


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2) ) Are there some ESL schools or certifications that are better than others? We are both open to pursuing the necessary certifications to make this happen.
Uh, yeah, some schools are better than others. Pretty general statement, don't you think? I don't know what it was you were actually driving at, but I suspect you missed the mark.

Certs? Depends on what country you go to. For your gf, as tttompatz wrote, if she goes to an international school, she already has the necessary requirements (for Japan). Most other teaching institutions here don't know what certs even are.

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3) She has asthma and gets bad migraines. She takes regular medication for both that would be prohibitively expensive without insurance. Is it hard to find jobs abroad that will cover the cost of medical insurance?
Again, please pick a country. Here in Japan, she will get on national health insurance, which pays 70% of medical costs including prescriptions.

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4) Are a lot of good schools / placements unlikely to take on someone who is married that is bringing along a spouse?
Pick a country. Some here in Japan will offer housing that is for singles only. Other than that, it's none of an employer's business who lives with you.

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5) I am willing to teach part time while I'm abroad (my job is very easy for me and doesn't take me too much time). I would eventually like to make the transition to teaching at the University level back in the US one day. What would be the likelihood that I might be able to acquire experience teaching at the university level abroad with a degree in English, a masters degree and an ESL certification?
What are the requirements for American universities? That should tell you how much and what sort of experience you'll need. Relay that info and pick a country, and we can pinpoint a little more what kind of answer to give.
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Alpha Murdock



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the fantastic advice and feedback, everyone. It sounds like the consensus is that my questions are too general to be addressed without picking a country (which we honestly haven�t done yet). I grew up in West Africa, France and Germany and would love to go back to those countries. She is a fluent Spanish speaker and loves Mexico, Peru and Columbia and would love to go there. We�ve also talked about exploring Egypt, Turkey, Thailand and Saudi Arabia. (You tell me to �pick a country� and I pick ten. Sorry, but we aren�t really prepared to lower down the list right now and would be happy with any of the above placements).

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Uh, yeah, some schools are better than others. Pretty general statement, don't you think? I don't know what it was you were actually driving at, but I suspect you missed the mark.


With question 2 I was asking if there are any particular schools or certifications that make employers sit up and go, �Woah! This person must be awesome.� In my field, for example, (here in the US anyway) the institution where you earn your degree doesn�t matter at all. Having done a lot of hiring myself, I feel comfortable saying that. So I was hoping that people here could point me in the direction of decent programs, or perhaps let me know what if there are any things we should look for in a program. I've googled this, but it is hard to tell what is an advertisement and what is not--and here on this site there seems to be a debate about this.

Sorry for confusing ESL and EFL, I understand these are different things. I wasn�t sure if her ESL experience would look good on her resume or not.

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What are the requirements for American universities? That should tell you how much and what sort of experience you'll need. Relay that info and pick a country, and we can pinpoint a little more what kind of answer to give.


My MFA is a terminal degree, so I am qualified to teach at the university level here, however the jobs are in short supply, mostly adjunct positions that would mean a huge pay hit and no benefits, or moving to a different part of the US. I�m not quite prepared to accept that right now.

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Yes, if you are married and she has a visa that allows her to legally work you can join her as a "dependent spouse".


Will I be able to list myself as a �dependent spouse� if my income is several times hers? (I have a feeling someone is going to tell me to pick a country again here).

Thanks!
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a big planet and this is a global forum so at least narrowing it down to a continent would make it a bit easier.

If you both only hold US passports then that will narrow your scope a bit (at least in ESL/EFL); a large part of western Europe is off the scope.

As a general rule of thumb, EFL wages in Central and South America (south of Mexico) are not very good.

The Middle East pays much better than most but it is not the easiest region to live and work in.

East/SE Asia does have its ups and downs and with the exceptions of China and Korea the majority of jobs (in EFL not proper international schools) will require you to be on the ground and in-country to even be considered. Pick a country, buy a ticket and off you go. The chances of finding work are pretty much 100%.

If you/she wants work in proper international schools then you pretty much missed the bus for this year. Additionally, you won't find much on the ESL/EFL boards/forums for that type of work. Look at places like "Search Associates, tes.co.uk/jobs, ibo.org, etc. Job fairs are the usual route to these jobs.

Your working under the radar as a writer and paid in your own country will have no consequence to your foreign status as a dependent when abroad.

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha Murdock wrote:
Thanks for the fantastic advice and feedback, everyone. It sounds like the consensus is that my questions are too general to be addressed without picking a country (which we honestly haven�t done yet). I grew up in West Africa, France and Germany and would love to go back to those countries. She is a fluent Spanish speaker and loves Mexico, Peru and Columbia and would love to go there. We�ve also talked about exploring Egypt, Turkey, Thailand and Saudi Arabia. (You tell me to �pick a country� and I pick ten. Sorry, but we aren�t really prepared to lower down the list right now and would be happy with any of the above placements).

Egypt is still unstable; plus, employers mostly hire locally rather than bring in teachers from abroad. Cross Saudi Arabia off your list; it's very patriarchal which impacts who and how decisions are made. For instance, your wife (you'd have to be married) would have to get approval from her employer to sponsor you on her iqama; there's no guarantee she'll get it. Frankly, I'm not sure why you're interested in "exploring" ultra-conservative KSA. Oman would be a better option because it's less restrictive, although I'd suggest getting hitched before applying for jobs there. Turkey and Thailand are good possibilities as well.

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Sorry for confusing ESL and EFL, I understand these are different things. I wasn�t sure if her ESL experience would look good on her resume or not.

English as a Second Language (ESL)
English as a Foreign Language (EFL)
English for Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL)

Having ESL on her resume definitely won't be a problem. But keep in mind, overseas employers won't count your volunteer ESL teaching experience; they're looking for paid experience. Anyway, your initial post threw me off because you weren't mentioning any specific countries and kept using 'ESL,' which made it sound like you're interested in jobs in the states teaching children even though you aren't. Basically, to teach children in k-12 international schools overseas, a teaching license from one's home country is required. This fits your girlfriend's situation. On the other hand, a TESOL or TEFL (not ESL) cert is for teaching adult language learners. Some employers don't require them as long as you have a college degree, but you'll find the consensus on this forum is that you get one anyway. Avoid online TEFL certs and instead, go for a CELTA or other equivalent TEFL cert that's at least 120 hours of face-to-face instruction and includes supervised teaching practice with real students. A graduate cert in TEFL or TESOL from an accredited university is a better bet, especially if you're thinking about eventually teaching in the US. Make sure it also includes a practical component. Moreover, you'll need solid, paid teaching experience under your belt before applying to teach in any US university ESL program.

I suggest browsing through the various country forums to get a good picture of where you might/can go. Also, look at current TEFL job ads in your target countries to see what most employers are requiring. Try TESOL.org's career center.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three general points:
Your degrees in English may lead to part-time jobs that do not require teaching, e.g. translating work, report polishing etc.
Your spouse's ability to teach small children makes her quite a catch (that was certainly my experience in Kiev, as somebody who didn't have this!).
You mention placements of six months or a year; people generally want you for a year, usually from September, the shorter hops are unusual and I certainly wouldn't rule them in on a regular basis.

1)) Would whatever visa she received for teaching cover me too? Would I be able to work for an international company (based in the US) and draw the salary I do abroad legally? What would this mean for me taxation-wise?
Language schools: possibly not, but if as seems likely, you can afford to train for a TEFL, then the skills of your spouse may make a school invite you even if they don't really need you much.
I'm not American, so I'll duck the pay/tax issue.

2) ) Are there some ESL schools or certifications that are better than others? We are both open to pursuing the necessary certifications to make this happen.
In terms of acceptability, the CELTA and Trinity Cert are best. Your spouse could do the CELTYL (a variant for teaching children, but doing the adult course would round out her skill set, making her a better catch still.

3) She has asthma and gets bad migraines. She takes regular medication for both that would be prohibitively expensive without insurance. Is it hard to find jobs abroad that will cover the cost of medical insurance?
Country-specific, I rather think. And job-specific.

4) Are a lot of good schools / placements unlikely to take on someone who is married that is bringing along a spouse?
A few ask for married couples ('good', not a clue). But you people can sell yourselves (marketing I mean, not Faustian bargains, although both are possible). If you are particularly attractive to a company, then they are likely to have your spouse come with you, then she looks around for some teaching in the area. Or the other way round, although schools often like to avoid bureaucracy (very complex in some countries).

5) I am willing to teach part time while I'm abroad (my job is very easy for me and doesn't take me too much time). I would eventually like to make the transition to teaching at the University level back in the US one day. What would be the likelihood that I might be able to acquire experience teaching at the university level abroad with a degree in English, a masters degree and an ESL certification?
Country-specific. In Russia, you would need an element of your degree to include applied linguistics, not just an ESL qualification.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coledavis wrote:
Your degrees in English may lead to part-time jobs that do not require teaching, e.g. translating work, report polishing etc.
Maybe the latter (and any other proofreading/editing/copyediting sort of work), but not the former unless he is highly fluent in another language, of course. He has told us his gf is fluent in Spanish, but as for his own L2 abilities, he has said nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
coledavis wrote:
Your degrees in English may lead to part-time jobs that do not require teaching, e.g. translating work, report polishing etc.
Maybe the latter (and any other proofreading/editing/copyediting sort of work), but not the former unless he is highly fluent in another language, of course. He has told us his gf is fluent in Spanish, but as for his own L2 abilities, he has said nothing.

Thanks, Glenski, I don't know how I came up with that gem of misinformation. Sorry folks.
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