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FreeWill



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Salaries and taxes Reply with quote
Is the salary that is received from language schools taxed before hand? Say for example someone is paid 2500 PLN. Is that the take home amount after ZUS, NFZ and others are paid?

What is the average salary that schools pay in Poland nowadays?

Thanks.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The general idea is that for ESL in Poland, you want to negotiate an after-tax amount. It's not worth talking about gross figures because they can vary wildly according to the type of contract on offer. Always, always clarify this - and make sure that your contract (if you're a newbie) mentions the net figure.

Average salary? Can be anything from 1800zl a month through to 8000zl a month. It's impossible to pin a number on it, because every school is different.

I will say that full time jobs are becoming rather rare in the cities.

The other thing is that it's rather unlikely that a school will pay ZUS contributions for you.
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Master Shake



Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
delphian-domine wrote:
The general idea is that for ESL in Poland, you want to negotiate an after-tax amount. It's not worth talking about gross figures because they can vary wildly according to the type of contract on offer. Always, always clarify this - and make sure that your contract (if you're a newbie) mentions the net figure.

Average salary? Can be anything from 1800zl a month through to 8000zl a month. It's impossible to pin a number on it, because every school is different.

I will say that full time jobs are becoming rather rare in the cities.

The other thing is that it's rather unlikely that a school will pay ZUS contributions for you.


Sound advice there.

Leave the gross-pay talk to the school and the tax office and only worry about net figures.

When I worked under an UoDz contract a few years ago, my school took out cheaper private insurance to avoid paying ZUS.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Master Shake wrote:
When I worked under an UoDz contract a few years ago, my school took out cheaper private insurance to avoid paying ZUS.


Dodgy, dodgy Wink

But it's actually worth negotiating in a small town - language schools might not be able to afford the costs of ZUS, but there's no harm in asking them to pay for some private health insurance - it's not expensive.
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not dodgy at all. As an American-therefore non-EU citizen-I'm required to have private insurance to get my residency card. I don't pay ZUS and it's legal.
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lundjstuart



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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Location: Warsaw, Poland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
scottie1113 wrote:
It's not dodgy at all. As an American-therefore non-EU citizen-I'm required to have private insurance to get my residency card. I don't pay ZUS and it's legal.


I got my 10 year residency with only paying for ZUS, nothing more.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
scottie1113 wrote:
It's not dodgy at all. As an American-therefore non-EU citizen-I'm required to have private insurance to get my residency card. I don't pay ZUS and it's legal.


Actually, it's not. Umowa o Dzieło contracts are used by schools, but their legality is very questionable - they're not meant to be used for things such as teaching (which is why you find many schools come up with legal fictions such as 'creating materials'). There's discussions elsewhere on here about the subject - the general consensus seems to be that the tax offices could close down half the schools overnight if they merely investigated their use of Umowa o Dzieło contracts.
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Maybe that's rue, maybe not. Whatever. It's been working for me for five years. Go figure.
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maniak



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:03 am    Post subject: