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		| vamanos12 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Professional Dress expectations HCT |   |  
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				| Hi, I'm looking for advice on exactly what I should/shouldn't plan on wearing in the classroom working for HCT Dubai Men's College. (as a woman)
 
 1. Dress pants/skirts (length, color)?
 2. Blouse specifications, color, etc....?
 3. Shoes?
 
 I'll obviously leave the tube top and mini skirt at home, but I really want to get it right in terms of professionalism.
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		| optimistic 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| a good teacher is never judged by what he/she is wearing. so, take it easy.  |  | 
	
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		| bin There 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A teacher in Dubai is likely to be judged on what they are wearing if it falls outside cultural norms. Students do comment, and quite possibly in front of you. 
 Skirt / Dress below the knees or pants. A blouse that doesn't reveal too much. Good-looking sandals, or shoes.
 
 Many female teachers wear T-shirts and skirts. There are "codes of dress" that come around every so often that says no T's, but a lot of teachers don't follow this to the letter.
 
 Best to err on the side of conservative. Once you're at DMC, you'll get a better feel.
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I would try to touch base with someone there to check.  I agree... err on the conservative side.  Find out if they allow pants.  (when I was at ADW, pants were not allowed)  If they are, I would suggest tunic tops.  Keep the skirts long... sleeves to the elbow... avoid tight fitting anything.  And IMHO, all of those are more comfortable in the heat.  Also the interiors are nearly always over-air-conditioned, so I always kept a sweater/jacket at my desk.  Obviously when teaching men, you want to be exposing as little skin as possible. 
 I lived in sandals 365 days a year over there... with my long skirts, no worries about hose.
  I wore semi-dressy sandals... comfortable, but no Birkenstocks.  Arabs tend to be a bit more formal than we often are. 
 Colors don't matter.  Wear what you like.
 
 VS
 (if you are in the US... DEVA - makes a lot of cool cotton stuff that is appropriate.  many of the catalogs carry lots of beautiful long skirts... like Serengeti and such...)
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		| nomad soul 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | veiledsentiments wrote: |  
	  | I would suggest tunic tops.  Keep the skirts long... sleeves to the elbow... avoid tight fitting anything.  And IMHO, all of those are more comfortable in the heat.  Also the interiors are nearly always over-air-conditioned, so I always kept a sweater/jacket at my desk.  Obviously when teaching men, you want to be exposing as little skin as possible. 
 I lived in sandals 365 days a year over there... with my long skirts, no worries about hose.
  I wore semi-dressy sandals... comfortable, but no Birkenstocks.  Arabs tend to be a bit more formal than we often are. 
 Colors don't matter.  Wear what you like.
 |  This is pretty much describes the dress code for female uni teachers in conservative Saudi Arabia, except our skirt/dress length is to the ankle.  And that's for working in an all-female environment!
 
 Vamanos, in addition to what VS provided, you'd probably be fine with skirts that are at least mid-calf length.  By the way, the topic of expat women's offensive dress style in Dubai recently made international news.  See http://www.dubaifaqs.com/dress-code-in-dubai.php for more on dress codes in the UAE.
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		| vamanos12 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| thanks for the tips |  | 
	
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| As my years there went on, my skirts kept getting longer.  Not because anyone told me how I should dress, but I found that it was so much cooler and more comfortable... mainly because there was no need to wear hose.  Nothing worse than hose in the heat and humidity.   
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		| Haloolah 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: HCT Dress |   |  
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				| Hi Vamanos - 
 If you got a job at HCT, check your materials HR sent you - there's a section on to how to dress, etc. in your new-hire materials that came with the contract. PM me if you hav add'l questions.
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		| Eisenhorn 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Several women at my branch of HCT (not DMC or DWC) have gotten a "warning" for having on slacks that show their figures or for not having blouses/covers their bottoms. 
 Generally wear 3/4 sleeves, don't have plunging necklines and cover your bum... and it should be ok.
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		| vamanos12 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:40 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, several hundreds of dollars and shopping trips later I think I have an appropriate wardrobe. It was a job in itself for someone like me that doesn't love to shop. Here's hopping the clothes will work. |  | 
	
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		| veiledsentiments 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| No hopping allowed!!   
 The internet and catalogs were invented for those of us who hate shopping.  I can't remember the last time I purchased an item of clothing in an actual store - other than underwear or shoes.
 
 VS
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		| Sirens of Cyprus 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | optimistic wrote: |  
	  | a good teacher is never judged by what he/she is wearing. so, take it easy.  |  
 If you are politically correct you can get away with a lot, but that doesn't make you a good teacher. Ha! You should change your name to "optimistic and naive."
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		| Gulezar 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | vamanos12 wrote: |  
	  | Well, several hundreds of dollars and shopping trips later I think I have an appropriate wardrobe. It was a job in itself for someone like me that doesn't love to shop. Here's hopping the clothes will work. |  
 Hey, guess what? We do have shops in the UAE and do we ever! Women of size can have problems finding things that fit properly, but then there are always the tailors and the fabrics are wonderful here.
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		| crocus 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hubby once said that the best thing is to ensure that every major joint apart from ankle and wrist should be covered. I think this works pretty well for women in the classroom. |  | 
	
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