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AbeCross
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 191
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: Visa agent for KSA |
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Can anyone here recommend a competent visa agent in the Washington, DC area? Thank you kindly. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Even with a good employer you have to jump through hoops. With lousy employers the hoops are more difficult. Sometimes impossible. |
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AbeCross
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 191
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:53 pm Post subject: Visa blues |
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Thanks for the replies. My future employer sent me the list of Enjaz-approved visa agents and instructed me to find a competent one.
Diran happens to be one of the two I recently contacted. They did not answer my last email to them and I wasn't too impressed with Diran.
The whole process of acquiring a work visa, especially the medical testing required, is nothing short of ridiculous. |
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Visa blues |
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AbeCross wrote: |
Thanks for the replies. My future employer sent me the list of Enjaz-approved visa agents and instructed me to find a competent one.
Diran happens to be one of the two I recently contacted. They did not answer my last email to them and I wasn't too impressed with Diran.
The whole process of acquiring a work visa, especially the medical testing required, is nothing short of ridiculous. |
...and they'll make you take another medical after you arrive!!! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Dear AbeCross,
And don't forget - it's Ramadan. Very little gets accomplished during the Fasting Month (and that may be an overstatement.)
Regards,
John |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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desert_traveller
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Visa blues |
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AbeCross wrote: |
The whole process of acquiring a work visa, especially the medical testing required, is nothing short of ridiculous. |
If you call that 'nothing short of ridiculous', what are you going to say when you have arrived to the KSA? This is just the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, and it gets exponentially worse from here on. Spare some vocab for the big adventure too! |
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EnglishDoYouSpeakIt
Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 151 Location: Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:11 am Post subject: |
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shebab
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 168
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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At the end of the day, it's better to do the paperwork yourself. Diran Visa was messing up my paperwork by sending it to the Saudi Embassy and not the Cultural Mission (a no-no for University jobs). The agency insisted that I needed an extra stamp from my employer in Saudi, something not necessary for university jobs. This was after they bounced my account among four different Diran employees, each of which either went on vacation, had a grandfather who died, or broke their arm and called in sick. When I realized I was in danger of losing the job because of this incompetence, I drove to the Agency and demanded my paperwork back. They only charged me for the Enjaz form. Then I drove to the Cultural Mission and personally handed everything over to the woman in charge. And no, I don't live in the DC area. At that point, I got my visa in three days.
Actually I vetted a variety of agencies before I went with Diran. ABriggs, while having a very impressive website, did not seem very organized or competent when I contacted them by phone. While a sample size of two is not statistically significant, my dealings with them left me with a very bad taste.
DON'T WASTE TIME AND MONEY ON A VISA AGENT IF YOU ARE GOING TO WORK FOR A UNIVERSITY! IT JUST SLOWS DOWN AN ALREADY SLOW PROCESS! |
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rdobbs98
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 236
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:06 am Post subject: |
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That was my whole thinking as well but the SACM is horrible to get on the phone for anything. When I do get through they put you into a voice-mail that you never get return calls from.
So is the agency worth it or not? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:31 am Post subject: |
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rdobbs98 wrote: |
That was my whole thinking as well but the SACM is horrible to get on the phone for anything. When I do get through they put you into a voice-mail that you never get return calls from. |
I never had issues communicating directly with the SACM. However, this time of year means peak hiring and visa processing; the SACM is likely to be super busy. |
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rdobbs98
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 236
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I spoke with someone at the public affairs office at the Saudi Embassy and they told me off the record that SACM has not been returning calls to them either and is frustrating the Embassy as well. This seems to be the norm and everything they do seems to become a mess when it never has to.
My question to all reading is how many used an agency if you worked for a Saudi University and how many went solo? Respective of how you did it, did it work or not?
From what I am seeing is like any country in the Middle East, you end up paying someone for something anyhow and it seems the same with the whole agency thing too. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I was fortunate. My visa was processed by the SACM in Ankara. They were "pro-active" and actually phoned me to check that everything was going well ! Unheard of for a Saudi official to take the initiative like that. |
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shebab
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 168
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I was also fortunate in that I received a personal phone call from the woman at SACM when my visa was ready and my passport about to be Fedexed back to me. But that was probably because I had personally shown up at her cubicle to hand everything over to her, something I would never have done if the visa agency had been doing their job.
The agency may be good for getting the diploma authenticated at the SACM and filling out the elusive Enjaz form, but for nothing more!
For the money you pay at an agency, you could rent a car and spend a few days in DC, seeing the sights at the many wonderful free museums between shuttling back and forth to the SACM in Virginia to get the paperwork stamped!  |
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