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PaulJam
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: Teaching Adults in Taiwan... |
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I have four years experience with Shane, teaching mainly kids but now, having come back to the UK to get my CELTA, I am thinking about returning to Taiwan to teach adults exclusively.
Does anyone know of any reputable institutions that will help me with my ARC and hire me with the above qualification and experience?
Any help much appreciated.
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much none. Don't come to Taiwan to teach adults. |
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ncaraway
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:39 am Post subject: |
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PaulJam
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the responses.
A little surprised though, as I have a few friends working at an IELTS school making good money...and I'd be very surprised if there weren't similar companies helping with IELTS or TOIEC preparation. |
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ncaraway
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PaulJam
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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That's ok, thanks.
Again, though, if anyone knows if decent schools that tutor adults then I'd be much obliged.
Thanks again. |
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creztor
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like your IELTS friends would be the best bet. He is already in the business of teaching adults.
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kurtz
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 518 Location: Phaic Tan
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Why are there so few adults learning English? |
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ncaraway
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teacher4life
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Adults in Taiwan are still learning English. They used to do so in schools like Gjun or Kojen or whatever, but increasingly there is a flight to quality- for genuinely qualified teachers, there is a strong market for adults in private lessons 1 to 1 or in class sizes of 4 at most. If you don't know what you are doing though, forget it. You will have to know your stuff.
Arranging lessons directly at companies is very lucrative. In my best case scenario I charge 1500 per hour to teach a group of salespeople. I do that twice a week at the same company. However, when they need to cancel, I tell them it is no problem and charge them zero. This is for them a much better deal than what they used to do, which is go through a chain company and get stiffed by not being allowed to cancel or worse yet by having the chain school send them a worthless "teacher" like a 25 year old kid who just read a text to them.
Needless to say the hardest part is finding the company in the first place! Right now that situation is a one of a kind for me though I sure hope to get more. I do know of other people doing the same, so it isn't impossible! |
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atreyue
Joined: 07 May 2010 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei, Taiwan - The Rain Capital Of Asia
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Wow - amazed at these responses.
To the OP: If you want to teach adults you can try Global (low pay) or David's (scattered hours) or KJun (unknown).
I have a bud teaching TOEFL and TOEIC in addition to his low hours he gets on his ARC.
So, it can be done. |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:28 am Post subject: |
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This is why I wouldn't recommend people think about solely teaching adults in Taiwan:
atreyue wrote: |
To the OP: If you want to teach adults you can try Global (low pay) or David's (scattered hours) or KJun (unknown). |
So you either get paid a lower than usual rate, less than what cram schools offer, have scattered hours or have to teach both adults and children (Kojen). It's not uncommon for GVO to give you hours on days that no-one wants to teach, and the hours won't be in block. Meaning you may have a class Saturday morning and then Saturday evening.
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I have a bud teaching TOEFL and TOEIC in addition to his low hours he gets on his ARC.
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Again, to make it doable you are possibly working at two or three different places just to get your ARC and extra hours to live on. If people enjoy teaching adults, that's fine, but why do it in Taiwan? I believe you'd be much better off in China due to its size and demand for adult English classes. |
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atreyue
Joined: 07 May 2010 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei, Taiwan - The Rain Capital Of Asia
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I wasn't so clear in that last post. So, and again, I have a friend who teaches a few hours at David's (his choice) and spends the rest on private TOEFL and TOEIC tutoring gigs, on his own time.
I myself work for David's part time (I teach high school full time) with no sponsorship, APRC. For a fact, David's offers lots of hours, decent rate and flexibility.
My issue with these replies is that you make it sound like its a near impossibility to come to Taiwan and only teach adults. Other than high school that is all I've ever taught in all the years I've been here.
Another fact - David's is in a constant hiring mode because the hours are there and available. The applicants don't come in because of the naysayers who decry that you'll never make a living as an adult teacher. Ridiculous. |
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romanworld
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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atreyue wrote: |
I myself work for David's part time (I teach high school full time) with no sponsorship, APRC. For a fact, David's offers lots of hours, decent rate and flexibility. |
What is the "decent rate" you talk about getting at David's? |
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atreyue
Joined: 07 May 2010 Posts: 33 Location: Taipei, Taiwan - The Rain Capital Of Asia
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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That would depend on a myriad of factors - experience, degree, and length of stay in Taiwan. If you believe you'll make "say $750/hr" as a wide eyed, no experience 24-year old - walk in - forget it. |
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