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G Cthulhu
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Inflames wrote: |
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| Sounds pretty goofy to me! |
A Japanese HR department is generally regarded as a laughingstock by the rest of the world.
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That's HR the world over. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Inflames
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| G Cthulhu wrote: |
That's HR the world over. |
I don't disagree with that, but HR in Japan seems to be absolutely terrible. People are given jobs and transferred with little notice and with little regard to their skills. I had a friend who worked at UFJ and he got sent to New York, despite the fact he barely spoke English. Yet I know a ton of people with 800+ TOEIC scores stuck in dead-end jobs. |
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timothypfox
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:24 am Post subject: |
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New York HR undervalues people who don't have an aggressive interaction style. I met several Japanese expats in my time there with talent, training, and solid English language skills, who could not get good jobs in their fields because they got overpowered in interpersonal relations and drowned out at meetings. I was born and raised in Canada, and this still happened to me in NYC - so after trying many things - I got stuck as a teacher... but I digress here...
In this regard, New York HR also very poorly undervalues the skills of it's potential and current labor force.
In Japan and other places, there is that annoying problem of not being able to get your foot in the door. What does getting you foot in the door of a company have anything to do with your qualifications, skills, and experiences that would make you an asset to the perspective company? At least you can expect more calls from HR departments in Japan where you dropped off a resume compared with US companies which almost never respond.... |
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rxk22
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Inflames wrote: |
| G Cthulhu wrote: |
That's HR the world over. |
I don't disagree with that, but HR in Japan seems to be absolutely terrible. People are given jobs and transferred with little notice and with little regard to their skills. I had a friend who worked at UFJ and he got sent to New York, despite the fact he barely spoke English. Yet I know a ton of people with 800+ TOEIC scores stuck in dead-end jobs. |
Think that might be the silly rigid business culture that hasn't changed since the 60's. I knew a lady who graduated from Kyoto Uni, spoke German and English, but was often relegated to being the OL/tea lady. |
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rxk22
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| timothypfox wrote: |
New York HR undervalues people who don't have an aggressive interaction style. I met several Japanese expats in my time there with talent, training, and solid English language skills, who could not get good jobs in their fields because they got overpowered in interpersonal relations and drowned out at meetings. I was born and raised in Canada, and this still happened to me in NYC - so after trying many things - I got stuck as a teacher... but I digress here...
In this regard, New York HR also very poorly undervalues the skills of it's potential and current labor force.
In Japan and other places, there is that annoying problem of not being able to get your foot in the door. What does getting you foot in the door of a company have anything to do with your qualifications, skills, and experiences that would make you an asset to the perspective company? At least you can expect more calls from HR departments in Japan where you dropped off a resume compared with US companies which almost never respond.... |
I hate HR in the US. No returning of calls, and often they pick unsuited candidates for job interviews. Which leads to no one getting hired. |
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