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genericusername
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 Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: AETC |
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I just got an offer from AETC. What is it? Is it a government office or what?
The offer was very low, so I wrote back and told them they had to raise or I won't come. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Uh, they made you an offer, yet, you didn't interview with them? That's a red flag. But are you referring to AETG? |
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genericusername
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Yes, sorry, AETG. No real interview, just one short phone call with some guy.
They only offered $33,000 plus 700 SAR transportation allowance. I don't like when they express the pay in USD but say they will pay in SAR because they can play games with the exchange rate thus reducing it below the already paltry amount. This is only a safe job waiting for another formal offer that I now have verbally that pays more than double this amount. |
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nickelgoat
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scot47
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| Al Faisal Academy !!! Renowned as an AWFUL place to be with very high turnover !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Westword
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:09 am Post subject: AETG |
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I recently accepted an offer through AETG. Everything I heard from the recruiter sounded decent but stupidly I didn't research them before committing myself. Now that I'm doing research on the internet I'm realizing they have a really bad reputation. I actually fly to Riyadh next week so I'm very committed at this point. I have a 90 employment Visa. I'm wondering if it's possible to switch companies once in Riyadh, or am I pretty much beholden to AETG for as long as I'm in Saudi? Is there any particular advice anybody could give me on how to deal with challenging employers? Are there ways to switch employers if I find them to be UN-acceptable? I'm fairly easy going so, if it's not awful, I think I can swing it.  |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| ...stupidly I didn't research them before committing myself. Now that I'm doing research on the internet I'm realizing they have a really bad reputation. I actually fly to Riyadh next week so I'm very committed at this point. I have a 90 employment Visa. I'm wondering if it's possible to switch companies once in Riyadh, or am I pretty much beholden to AETG for as long as I'm in Saudi? Is there any particular advice anybody could give me on how to deal with challenging employers? Are there ways to switch employers if I find them to be UN-acceptable? I'm fairly easy going so, if it's not awful, I think I can swing it. |
Yep, committing to a job in the Kingdom without first researching the employer, especially if they're a sleazy contractor = major stupidity that's potentially costly in time, sanity, dignity, and money.
Anyway, AETG would have to be willing to transfer their sponsorship, and that's not likely to happen. (If you could read Arabic, you'd see the company's name on your employment visa; it will be listed on your iqama as well.)
Advice? Well, if you still plan to board that plane, you have that 90-day probationary period. Read your contract terms/conditions regarding employment termination within those 90 days (and hope AETG 'honors' the contract). Also, be aware that within the first 90 days of entry, you have to give them your passport for iqama processing. It's a problem if they decide to keep your passport in their possession even after your iqama has been issued.
Good luck! You're gonna need it! |
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genericusername
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Westward, it sounds like you don't have an "employment visa" but a 90 day business visa which is what they told me they would do. It other statements in this thread are true that if you work on a business visa you get no severance, that means you are not a legal employee under the Labour Law. Accordingly, if you leave during or after that visa, they can't claim that you broke the contract and a no objection letter would not be necessary because they are lying to the government by claiming you are not an employee but a contractor or business associate coming in to do some particular business. They will be held to that status of non-employee whether it hurts or helps them.
You will probably have to make a border run at some point to renew another business visa or leave and come back for your iqama. If you want to quit, would suggest that you get all of your pay before make a border run and don't come back. Companies that show no respect to their employees deserve none in return.
I have no knowledge of Saudi law, but I am a lawyer with extensive experience with UAE Labour Law and immigration. |
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Westword
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