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salons in Japan for the worst kind of hair $$$ (for women)

 
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nawlinsgurl



Joined: 01 May 2004
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Location: Kanagawa and feeling Ok....

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:24 am    Post subject: salons in Japan for the worst kind of hair $$$ (for women) Reply with quote

I uess this is mostly for women, cause I'm sure none of the guys worry too much about this...This may be so random and you all may think I am crazy, but I was wondering if there are places to get super wavy hair straightened via flat iron and about how much it costs? Also any ideas on maybe products I should bring? My hair is the worst kind super frizzy but super wavy and the wrong weather (ie tons of rain) will make me looke like Ronald McDonald. Right now I get it straigtened with the flat iron, but use no chemicals. Also do you all dye your own hair or go somewhere??
Thanks!
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easyasabc



Joined: 13 Jul 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: salons in Japan for the worst kind of hair $$$ (for wome Reply with quote

nawlinsgurl wrote:
I I was wondering if there are places to get super wavy hair straightened via flat iron and about how much it costs? Also any ideas on maybe products I should bring? Also do you all dye your own hair or go somewhere??


I had a straight perm here a couple of years ago and it was about 10,000 yen. It worked fine then and since then my hairdesser told me that the chemicals and methods for doing it have improved so it should be even better now. I'm going to have one again soon.

Re products to bring - I'm not sure what you have there but I get my hair products sent from home in Australia because I think the Japanese ones kind of suck. If you have a favourite bring it with you and/or make sure there is an online way you can buy it once you are here.

I dye my own really cheaply and easily but I think that's only because I dye it black and of course there is plenty of black dye here. I wouldn't dye my hair any lighter colour here because the bleaches/tints/dyes for Japanese hair might work very differently on Western hair and leave your hair looking very yellow-ish.
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hair, in my opinion, is hardly a trivial topic. If you're not comfortable with how you look and the hair products you use here in Japan, you'll get frustrated.

Easy says Japanese hair products suck, and a lot of foreign women say the same thing. I bought some foreign made shampoo at the Costco in Chiba City, and I use it most of the time.

Hairdressers use local or imported stuff, and I find it keeps my hair soft either way.

I get my hair coloured at a hairdresser. It sets me back about Y8000 for cut and colour.

The chemicals they use certainly are harsh, and my scalp really felt itchy, but I recovered okay.

BTW, I had long and thick brown hair past my shoulders the first time I came to Japan, but because I couldn't stand the heat and humidity I got it cut into a bob. I've since gone shorter. It feels more comfortable this way, and people compliment me on my hair.

I know this may sound weird, but when my hair gets to feeling dry, I use liquid soap - the kind you use in the shower - instead of shampoo and my hair feels so nice and it's shiny. It takes a bit of experimentation sometimes to figure out your routine when you're in a new country.
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melirae



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Haircuts in Osaka?!? Reply with quote

What about a good place in Osaka for a haircut? The only thing my hair has in common with Asian hair is that it's straight! Mine is really fine, thin and blonde. I would just want a simple trim every so often. Are there salons that do a good job with this type of hair?

I'm thinking maybe I should just forego the haircuts until I come home because I'm very particular. My hair is below my shoulders and I would like to keep it that way! I don't want it to be butchered!
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J.



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:23 am    Post subject: Hair and stuff... Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry about bringing shampoo and such here; they have a bazillion brands and most are fine. If you want a western brand, almost every store and drugstore carries Vidal Sassoon and Wella which are both good. Heavy duty ( deep ) conditioner is called "treatment" here and spelled in kana on the front. Regular everyday conditioner is called conditioner or rinse. You can also order western brands from Foreign Buyers Club. If you have coloured hair, Herbal Essences has one ( light pink colour) that is mild. For brown colours you are okay here but if you have light brown or blond hair you will need to bring or have your colour sent. Again, I think FBC has some shades. I think the hairdressers here are good. The main thing is to get one that speaks English a bit or go with a translator so that they know what you want. I used to be a hairdresser and I have confidence in most hairdressers cutting skills. Get a reccomendation from a friend or student and give it a try. Colours here are harsh because they contain ammonia which is necessary to lift the colour from very dark hair but which is not usually used in Westen products which mostly feature hydrogen peroxide. Hope this helps.
Very Happy
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easyasabc



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: salons in Japan for the worst kind of hair $$$ (for wome Reply with quote

easyasabc wrote:
Re products to bring - I'm not sure what you have there but I get my hair products sent from home in Australia because I think the Japanese ones kind of suck.
Oops - soory I think I should have made that a bit more specific. When I say products I don't mean shampoo or conditioner I meant stuff like gel, mousse, wax, etc etc.

I find the shampoo and conditioner here fine. I use the same one that I used to use in Australia (Pantene) and it's fine (cheaper than Oz too)Very Happy
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: Haircuts in Osaka?!? Reply with quote

melirae wrote:
What about a good place in Osaka for a haircut? The only thing my hair has in common with Asian hair is that it's straight! Mine is really fine, thin and blonde. I would just want a simple trim every so often. Are there salons that do a good job with this type of hair?

I'm thinking maybe I should just forego the haircuts until I come home because I'm very particular. My hair is below my shoulders and I would like to keep it that way! I don't want it to be butchered!


I'm in a similar situation. When I went into my local salon and asked for just a trim, they did just trim, but with a razor, not scissors. I guess they thought I wanted the layered look that seems to be so popular here. Mad

For my next haircut, I waited until my vacation (out of Japan). Although I lost a few more inches of hair than I really wanted to part with, they used scissors and did a really nice job of making it even.

And I agree with the poster (sorry, don't remember which of the ladies it was!) who said that this isn't a trivial thread at all! This is just one of many issues to keep in mind when living abroad.

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Iwantmyrightsnow



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Haircuts in Osaka?!? Reply with quote

melirae wrote:
What about a good place in Osaka for a haircut? The only thing my hair has in common with Asian hair is that it's straight! Mine is really fine, thin and blonde. I would just want a simple trim every so often. Are there salons that do a good job with this type of hair?

I'm thinking maybe I should just forego the haircuts until I come home because I'm very particular. My hair is below my shoulders and I would like to keep it that way! I don't want it to be butchered!


Theer are plenty of places in Osaka that advertise in foreign magazines. Not sure that they all have experience with gaijin though. One that does is "Boy". A friend was teaching them english and I hair modelled (guines pigged) a few times for the juniors. The owner is really good. You can find their ad in Kansai Scene, Kansai Flea Market etc.
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kiracle



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Gifu, Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not trival at all. If you are in the countryside , good luck finding a haridressor but if you are in an area with a gaijin community I woudl ask around to see if there is somebody familiar with Western hair. My (coutnryircut my hair in a very typical Japanese (and SHORT) style which looked awful on me and will take years to grow out. He also used a razor on my super fine hair. He even thinned it! I've decided to forgo haircuts for the next year. BTW this was the same guy who gave me a great haircut the first time. I think he was being mroe careful then or something.

Recomendations? Try to find a hairdressor familiar with finer hair or keep your cuts very simple and be able to say "no razor please, only scissors" Shampoo and conditioner is easy to find. Hair dye is not - I got a years worth sent to me - unless you want to go black. I dye my hair red and all the red dye here has bleach. Gel, mousse, etc. if you have a brand that works well for you - bring it. Or be prepared to start a probably long trial and error search for new ones.

In the end, it always grows back. Smile

cheers,

kiracle
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vash3000



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And let me add...

I`m not sure what they put in the water in Japan, but the hairdressers are, without exception, all insane.

They insist on making me look like a porcupine, then laughing about it.

"Woosh!" they say in giggly little Hello Kitty voices, everytime I leave, as they follow me into the parking lot to wave goodbye.

I hate them all.

Nice head head massage, though...

Best,
V.
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Lynn



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: in between

PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically, in both New York City, and Seattle, the Japanese hair salons are overbooked with nonJapanese people getting their hair straightened. Apparently, over here the Japanese have the best hair straightening method around. It's also spendy, though. I used to go to a Japanese salon in th village in New York. Tren-dee, it was. I kept it a secret that I used to live in Japan for 4 years. Also, many people go there just for the hair washing alone.

But keep in mind, these sytlist were trained to cut nonJapanese hair. Whereas in Japan, they are trained to cut Japanese hair. My hair is very dark brown and with a very slight wave in it. Looks can be deceiving. Apparently, Japanese hair needs to be cut a certain way(lots of layers) to get body. Well, even though I have a mop of brown/black hair, each individual strand is actually quite fine in comparison to Japanese hair. So when the stylist finished drying my hair, it was so bushy! Laughing

As for products, I love Japanese products and bring pack a supply in my suitcase when I go back to the states. Have fun experimenting. Japanese are very, very conscience of looks and spends millions of dollars on it.
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Laura C



Joined: 14 Oct 2003
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Location: Saitama

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: Question??? Reply with quote

Product query:

Anyone seen the John Freida Frizz=ease range in Tokyo? I can buy it off the net, but much easier if i knew it was in the international pharmacy or a big supermarket.

Thanks!

L
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chi-chi



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Back in Asia!

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have absolutely no worries. I got the best haircut in my life while in Japan! Damn I wish I could remember the name of the place, but it is on the "main drag" in Osaka, in Namba, I think Doutonbori? The street by the bridge with all the arcades. There is a large hair salon by the movie theater and right across from a major coffee shop that I also forget the name of (NOT Starbucks or Seattle's Best, but a major chain that you'll know on the strip when you see it!) The hair salon is right across the street from it. Just remember main drag with all the ufo catcher machines.
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