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How much can be saved in Saudi?
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Zara461



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For me, lunch is 5 riyals ...

I have heard that some people their lunch is Falafeel, Tamis (Afghani bread), and Foul Mudammas (mashed fava beans with olive oil). All cost less than 5 Riyals!
I think these people will save a lot more, especially if they are members of 500 club.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious... what exactly is wrong with that lunch? Sounds significantly better that a burger and fries... Laughing

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Zara461



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with the Falafeel lunch, at the contrary, it is a healthy diet and much better than fish and chips! Laughing
I only mentioned it as an example of a lunch which can cost less than 5 Riyals.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I am including drinks with that. The food itself costs 3 riyals....
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revenger2013



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prices of various meals I would partake in (in no particular order)

Shwarma beef or mutton - 7 riyals, these were of various qualities,
smaller than the British 'kebab' and filled with chips and various
sauces - quite nice
Curry, chicken or mutton with rice and unlimited bread - 15 riyals
from the fantastic 'Usamina' on the Khalid bin Waheed on exit 8
Yemeni egg dishes and bread with milk tea - 6 riyals
Kabsa, mutton or chicken with enough rice to feed three people
- 12 riyals.
Falafel sandwich - 7 riyals
KFC/Kudu/McD's/Herfy meal - 20 riyals
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PeterParvo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggest expense by far......school fees. My kids didn't go to the most expensive school and their total bill was 75,000SAR a year. That was a major reason why we didn't do one more year. It seems to happen from time to time that a teacher accepts a job thinking that he is getting 25,000 per kid, when in fact it's 25,000 per family.
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much you save depends on four main factors:
1. how hard you want to work
2. how little you can spend
3. Your degrees
4. Your experience
maybe your skin color and your mother tongue

So, my "friend" works at a university and his base salary is 16,000 SAR plus benefits... he works nights.... that allows his days to be free to work at the international schools, many of which pay equal to that of his university. The schedule is 7 am to 1 pm and then to the uni for 3-9 pm.

My other friend has the opposite schedule where he works at the uni during the day and works at an academy at night. He brings in about 20,000 SAR a month.

One last guy was a private tutor to some very rich people and he worked 12 hrs a day min and often more... In one year alone, he saved over 50,000 USD...
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stories like that can of course be true but willonly serve to excite the fevered imaginations of those who have not been in KSA.

Most people will save a lot less than the figures quoted by the previous poster.

I know teachers in KSA who are obsessive overtime takers, hunters of private teaching opportunities etc. One is in the process of buying House Number Seven.

Lead a balanced life and keep your sanity and humanity.


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randall020105



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zara461 wrote:
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For me, lunch is 5 riyals ...

I have heard that some people their lunch is Falafeel, Tamis (Afghani bread), and Foul Mudammas (mashed fava beans with olive oil). All cost less than 5 Riyals!
I think these people will save a lot more, especially if they are members of 500 club.


Wow! That sounds delicious! I could do that - a bit calorie rich, but do-able.
I'll possibly be housed at an apartment or some type of +-3 star hotel with a kitchenette...not sure if it's shared or not(not that it matters).

I can cook(even have a pending youtube channel i'll let you in on as soon as it's ready)... other than that i'm all for frugality and focused on what I'm there for.

Hey Revenger - can one make use of the doggy bag over there - you know what they say - "left-overs make for great midnight snacks/breakfasts. "
I've heard Kabsa can be really good.

OMW Peterparvo - why don't you guys homeschool? I'm pretty sure that'll work out much cheaper?!

OK, so I've given Hatcher's response some thought:
1. I'm a machine...back home I could easily do a 48 hour stretch shift (up
to 72, but then I become a zombie....bwooohahahahaha)
2. Very Happy - like I said I'm a machine... room for anyone's imagination!
3. I have 3 qualifications relavant to the ESL industry up to M level.
4. +- 5 years all-together... +- 24 months post degree.
5. ok, so i've heard about "white-is-right"... I'm not white, but that never
stopped me before... My mother tounge goes without saying!

Scot47=Tompatz(in S.Korea)..I get that impression... anyone concur?

Lots of really great advice and really welcome any input. Will keep y'all updated as things unfold.

R.


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tmac-100



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hatcher wrote:
How much you save depends on four main factors:
1. how hard you want to work
2. how little you can spend
3. Your degrees
4. Your experience
maybe your skin color and your mother tongue

So, my "friend" works at a university and his base salary is 16,000 SAR plus benefits... he works nights.... that allows his days to be free to work at the international schools, many of which pay equal to that of his university. The schedule is 7 am to 1 pm and then to the uni for 3-9 pm.

My other friend has the opposite schedule where he works at the uni during the day and works at an academy at night. He brings in about 20,000 SAR a month.

One last guy was a private tutor to some very rich people and he worked 12 hrs a day min and often more... In one year alone, he saved over 50,000 USD...


Yup. Not what you make, but rather what you save. I have seen folks save 10% and some save 80% of their income....
In any case, it is better to discuss how many angels can dance on a pin-head...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

randall020105 wrote:
Scot47=Tompatz(in S.Korea)..I get that impression... anyone concur?

Huh? Are you saying that they are similar personalities or the same person. Scot has been on this board as a Saudi poster since it started in the mid-90s. He's always been in Saudi...

Hey Scot... have you ever been in Korea? even as a tourist?

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randall020105



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Haha Reply with quote

HAHAHA VS... Mea Culpa. I meant they are similar in their usefulness.

R.
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currentaffairs



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with most of Hatcher's points because a. almost all companies don't let you work privately/for another company b. the general mass of English teachers are on around the same salary: 11-13,000 riyals c. degrees/experience do add to more income but not by so much (around 1-2500 riyals).

The example of someone earning 16,000 riyals a month is not the norm. Quite possible if you land a full-time university job, but relatively rare.

All the teachers I know quite easily survive on living costs of 1500 riyals a month or less. No one manages to go over that.

At the end of the day, I think a lot of people would be saving similar amounts of money!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlike currentaffairs, but in common with many of my colleagues, I had children to provide for and educate. They are expensive.

Home-schooling in Saudi Arabia is a cruel and unnatural punishmenet. For most school-age children in Saudi, their school is their only opportunity to meet others ! In came across twofamilies who home-schooled while there. Neither made much of a success of it. Your employer will pay an education allowance but very few will shell out an allowance for home-schooling.

I have never been in Korea and would only agree to a short visit for a six figure sum paid in cash in advance in non-consecutive US dollar bills.

My posts here are based on my own prejudices, matured as a result of 40 years of teaching. 17 of those were in KSA.


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revenger2013



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

randall020105 wrote:


Hey Revenger - can one make use of the doggy bag over there - you know what they say - "left-overs make for great midnight snacks/breakfasts. "
I've heard Kabsa can be really good.



Hi Randall, Yes, you can take home food you can't finish but I found that in regards rice, they always give you far too much, enough for three people. Kabsa is really bland but it is good for a change every so often, I found the Indian/Pakistani food to be really tasty and of good value. I ate more Indian/Pakistani food than anything else.
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