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coledavis
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Swann - I think that's the grammar that works like a dictionary. Some like it, I don't.
I prefer Parrott for general grammar rules: Grammar for English Language Teachers; it has chapters, like a real book.
Others use Murphy, but usually to provide back-up material when the students are stuck on something.
Although when you say treatise, as in wanting a more profound knowledge yourself to help your teaching, then I would go for Lewis, English Verb. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| As for mind-bendingly boring subjects, I majored in Religion/Theology, and Philosophy; with minors in English/Literature and Visual Arts. In terms of topics, I did minute analysis of Aristotle's logical writings (death by dullness to most), quite a bit of Hegel (assisted by my German), and many other things which would make a tender soul blanch before their awe-inspiring tediousness. In the arts, I did fine detail ink drawings. |
So, how does linguistics sound, then? 
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| I have deferred acceptance in a competitive Lit program; would that be more or less useful than an MA in Applied Linguistics? |
If you want to teach lit, yes. If you want to teach English language, no.
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| One of the reasons why I am somewhat insistent on this point of education is because having taken the CELTA, I should say it really isn't enough. |
After all, it's a cert, not a degree program.
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| It was demanding on time but not on content. I would be open to reading independently to broaden my knowledge, if there are any specific authors, books, or tomes I ought to invest in, I would love it if anyone would share their favorites. |
I don't have a favorite. I don't read that sort of literature. Just saw this (poorly filmed) vid with Paul Nation (vocab god) plugging a book, though. Maybe it (or the other one he mentions in the interview) would strike your fancy. I have not seen either one.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=494795050557470
Exactly what sort of book are you looking for?
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| As for conversation schools, yes. I've talked with a number already, naturally. I like to have a long term plan, though I tend to change them every few years. |
Conversation schools, IMO, are not a long-term option anyway. However, they are often a foot in the door.
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| It is possible that I won't want to do this in perpetuity, but I do believe from the limited experience I have had thus far, I would enjoy doing it for a number of years. Realistically speaking, when it comes to careers, thats about all you can usually hope for before its time to move on. |
Then if you have the time and money, give it a shot.
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| I find it odd that people are so opposed to being educated to do this! Imagine if engineers, pilots, and doctors had such notions! Quite odd. |
Lots of teachers in Asia get into TEFL with degrees in subjects totally unrelated to English, linguistics, or teaching. The field of TEFL doesn't have that great a reputation for that reason. At least you see the need to prepare. Kudos.
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| International schools require teaching certification, whereas Universities do not. Where are the most enjoyable jobs? That is obviously subjective, but worth asking. |
The subjective answer depends on you. Will you enjoy teaching younger kids or college aged ones? Short lessons or longer ones? More active lessons or less so? Drilling in the grammar or mostly finding ways to get your students to use it? And, then there are the differences in benefits (country by country differences).
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| Finally, Glenski, where would you advise me to look at programs? |
I will step aside and let those with experience (and more recent ones than mine) help you with that one.
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Not sure what was meant by treatise either. I mean, this is TEFL after all!
But if you want a meaty book that goes into English grammar in some depth, then M.A.K. Halliday's 'An Introduction to Functional Grammar' is a good starting point. At the opposite end of the cline, you could read anything by Chomsky.
Lewis's English Verb is a good little book, but it is a little too much on the readable side for my liking, grrr! |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, Professor Gringo's post is well worthwhile as a general introduction for newbies. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| coledavis wrote: |
| Yes, Professor Gringo's post is well worthwhile as a general introduction for newbies. |
THANKS  |
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