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sainthood · Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: M2R global... anyone?

Hi all.

I just got an email about a job agented by M2R Global, for uni positions all over Saudi.

Doing a search on Dave's gave me nothing, but they do have a spiffy website, and say they've been around for 10 years.

So - anyone?????

Linguist · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 202

Never heard of them.

johnslat · Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject:

Salary's pretty skimpy = - gotta love this part, though:

"WHO SHALL BE DEDICATED TO THE ARDUOUS TASK OF IMPARTING KNOWLEDGE TO STUDENTS HAILING FROM A DIFFER-ENT CULTURE AND AT TIMES PERHAPS, VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COGNITIVE ABILITIES TO AC-QUIRE NEW LANGUAGE SKILLS."

and maybe it's just my imagination, but the English seems a little awkward at times.

"Benefits:
- Bachelors Degree holders with a two years experience in TESOL , post Professional Credential award or a TESOL/applied Linguistics Degree - US$30K ,the salary ladder will rise proportional to years of experience topping US$38K per annum for 10+ Years . Applicants without the required experience but holding adequate credentials shall be considered but for a lower Salary package. - Graduate Degree Holders with a minimum of Two Years experience post award , start at $36K and top out at $
Description:
THE INSTRUCTORS SHALL BE SELFSUSTAINED, MOTIVATED AND DILIGENT INDIVIDUALS WHO SHALL BE DEDICATED TO THE ARDUOUS TASK OF IMPARTING KNOWLEDGE TO STUDENTS HAILING FROM A DIFFER-ENT CULTURE AND AT TIMES PERHAPS, VERY DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COGNITIVE ABILITIES TO AC-QUIRE NEW LANGUAGE SKILLS. YOU SHALL BE PROVIDED PRESCRIBED CURRICULUM AND TRAINING TO DELIVER IT.

QUALIFICATIONS

A BACHELORS DEGREE IN TESOL/APPLIED LINGUIST-ICS OR ENGLISH EDUCATION IS PREFERRED . OTH-ER FIRST DEGREES ALSO ACCEPTABLE SUPPLEMENTED BY A TESOL CERTIFICATION SUCH AS CELTA, CANADIAN OR US -TESOL , INTERNATIONAL TESOL WITH A MINIMUM OF (120) HRS OF INSTRUCTION INCLUDING TEACHING PRACTICE CONTENT NOT LESS THAN FIFTY PERCENT OF THE PROGRAM.

A MASTERS DEGREE IN TESOL/ ENGLISH EDUCATION OR ENGLISH LITERATURE , OTHER DEGREES SHALL NOT BE COUNTED FOR REMUNERATION PACKAGE ALLOCATION. GRADUATE DEGREE SUPPLEMENTED BY A PROFESSION-AL CERTIFICATION SHALL BE WELL COMPENSATED.

QUALIFICATIONS

Ph.D IN LINGUISTICS , ENGLISH EDUCATION / CURRICULUM & INSTRUCTION WITH ENGLISH EDUCATION TRACK. ANY SUPPLEMENT PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIAL SHALL BE CONSIDERED FOR EXTRA COMPENSATION. ANY OTHER DOCTORAL QUALIFICATIONS SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN LIEU OF FULFILLMENT OF THE POSITION REQUIRE-MENTS. EXPERIENCE IN RESEARCH RELATED TO TESOL , FACULTY TENURE SHALL BE APPRECIATED AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION.

D.Ed IN TEACHING AND LEARNING / ENGLISH TEACHING . TESOL ALSO ACCEPTABLE . EXPERIENCE IN TEACHING PRACTICE SHALL BE COMPENSATED IN REMUNERATION PACKAGE."

Regards,
John

sainthood · Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: As it turns out....

M2R seem to be based in the UK, as the reply email came from there.

But, they're recruiting for AETG... and yes, the pay does look like crap! Given my quals and exp, they'd better be offering the higher end of the pay scales (not the highest, naturally, but certainly not at the lowest either!)

We shall see!

At least I got a reply within a day or so, which is far better than many other places I've applied to.

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject:

Very oddly worded...almost Biblical at times. The pay does seem low. It looks like it is $30,000 at the bottom and $38,000 at the top? Am I reading this right? Someone with a Ph.D. and ten years of experience would top out at $38,000? As long as the Ph.D. is in the required field, of course....and about which they seem enormously concerned.

Even if they are efficient at getting back to you, I would take my time and look into it very carefully. Sounds like someone old going under a new name. Perhaps even a university that is turning over its HR hiring functions to a recruiter of some sort. Be sure you talk to someone who has genuinely worked with them before, and don't fall for some manager suddenly posing on the page as a former employee.

Get all the details before you even consider considering it. (Yes, I meant to use both forms of "consider" right next to each other, to indicate the intensity of the consideration I would give before applying to this job.)

sainthood · Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:26 am Post subject:

Mia, no - PhD's start at $42K, and up to $55K with 5 years experience.

And yeah, I know I need to look further - there have been no details for where one works! Or any other job specific information!!!

Also, their remuneration package is contradicted... in one section, it even says that Master's degrees don't add to the pay, yet further down it does!

Mia Xanthi · Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:30 pm Post subject:

There have long been rumors that PMU was turning over its HR function to recruiters. The have had a very difficult time both hiring and maintaining qualified faculty due to horrendous HR inadequacies. They would be my first guess, especially since they have ads all over higher ed right now.

taxman · Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 19 Location: Germany

Last month I received an email from m2r global asking me about my interest in Saudi jobs. I replied and agreed to speak with Mr. M M over Skype. I couldn't keep the originally scheduled day due to illness, so I rescheduled for one week later. This was over three weeks ago and still no call (or email or any other communication). Wonder what I did wrong?

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You are entitled to your opinion.