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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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teacher4life



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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:13 am Post subject:

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Learn to speak the important foreign languages yourself. Use their language to teach them English. The best ones to learn are Chinese, Spanish, and Arabic.

Lesser languages to consider include Japanese, Russian, Portuguese, Bahasa, Bengali, and Hindi.

Barely worth mention are archaic languages like French and German.







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers

200 million current speakers of 'archaic' French in the world.
166 million " '" German "
132 million (presumably modern) Japanese
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teacher4life



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity the tribe toadies who don't understand my message. You guys are in dire need of the critical thinking skills you claim to offer. Laughing
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear teacher4life,

But do not leave us tribal toadies mired in our ignorance, O sage. Take our hands and lead us down the path of wisom Very Happy .

Pretty please.

Regards,
John


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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need for pity. It is not I who claims to teach critical thinking skills in place of language skills. Clarity of written expression is an area many language learners genuinely need help with. And not just the learners.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, too, teach the language needed to express critical thoughts. Not 'thinking skills.' I wouldn't presume; my students are clearly capable of thinking critically at high levels already!
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An archaic skill, of bygone, better times, sob sob. And very Germanic too! : )
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was put to shame at the numbers of continental Europeans I met who could speak several languages really well. For Germans, this frequently included Spanish and/or French. In fact, part of the border area between France and Germany (Alsace and Saarland) is fully bilingual. I�d say English is of more importance in Germany when dealing with non European countries. I don�t see that changing for a very long time to come if ever.

In terms of teaching, I liked comparing my experiences of language learning with students. That had its uses for me as I think it sometimes changes the dynamic with your class. Other than that, having some knowledge of how a specific language works and the kinds of mistakes a learner is likely to be useful as well, but I don�t see it as necessary for language teaching except perhaps for true beginners. How useful a language is for your personal/professional life depends on where you end up living. I think that�s also true of whatever niche you choose to specialise in within the language teaching field.
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PeterBar



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Switzerland with 3 official languages - French, German and Italian.
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MdSmith



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all. Sorry I am going back to the original topic, anyone know of any niches in environmental/geo-science in tefl?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MdSmith wrote:
...anyone know of any niches in environmental/geo-science in tefl?

That would likely fall under English for Specific Purposes (ESP). In your case, a company or nonprofit organization (in your home country or overseas) that specializes in your field might be interested in using both your TEFL and PhD in Enviro Science backgrounds for training their employees. The other option is to continue teaching enviro science (in English) to science degree students but in a different country.
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