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When should I hear from the Chinese Universities?
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Lloyduss



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:11 am    Post subject: When should I hear from the Chinese Universities? Reply with quote

Hi Everyone!

So when should I start hearing back from the Chinese Universities for the September 2013 start? I sent off my application both in January and early March. The reason I ask is I'm new to the TEFL world and I know it hasn't been long, but it has felt like a million years since I sent off my application.


Thank guys
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amisexy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From memory, last year most advertisements went up around late April to mid-June. I'm guessing most schools will reply soon after this. There were still adverts in July, but by the time August came around they had really dried up.

I think you should start reapplying at the end of this month. or in May. Schools will start looking around then. That is what my plan is, as I plan to transfer from Europe to Asia for the next academic year.


(Note: I didn't apply last year, but I was very interested, and looked a lot!. Also I don't work in China!)
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rioux



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of places are advertising now.
Go get 'em.
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Lloyduss



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But should I apply again as it would be my third time then? I don't want to annoy them.

By the way thanks Ami for taking the time to reply as it's very much appreciated Smile
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First rule of job search = ABA = Always Be Applying.
Don't reapply, make new applications to new schools.
Also keep live applications going until you actually sign with someone.
And the time to get really active is when you've just concluded a beautiful Skype session with an FAO that you believes loves you and will conduct you gently by the hand into some sun dappled Chinese teaching paradise.
Western societies are trust societies. Others, including China are exploitative.
Be cynical.
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vikeologist



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What information / scans of documents did you send?
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Lloyduss



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent a PDF containing:

*A recent photo
*Covering Letter
*CV
*Degree Cert.
*TEFL Cert.
*Passport
*2x References

I have been told that I should have put watermarks on these, however, I thought it would slow the process down so I decided not to this time round.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloyduss wrote:
But should I apply again as it would be my third time then? I don't want to annoy them.

By the way thanks Ami for taking the time to reply as it's very much appreciated Smile


Much of Chinese life still revolves around being pushy. Wait your turn at many places and you'll be waiting a long time. (Public transportation, lines to see the clerk at banks, ticket sellers, etc.) I wouldn't worry about resending the same package to a university. If you pdf-ed the files they shouldn't be monster sized and won't overload the server. You may have sent in to early for some. Many or most unis are just now trying to figure out how many foreign teachers they need and how many current ones are staying. If by the end of the month a school decides it needs to hire a new FT, and they have just received a resume from Teacher X, they may not even go back and check for your email of a month or two back. Mostly I'd say resend this month for the fact that it's the least time consuming, especially if you have the email ready in a "sent" box.

But I also agree with the above advice to broaden your search and send to new schools as well. From what you are sending the universities, it looks like you won't have much trouble finding a decent place to land. Expect more response by the end of this month to the beginning of May.
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vikeologist



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP., sounds as though you've sent all the stuff you need to (unless you're already in China, in which case you could do with a release letter if poss).

I'm a DOS at a Uni, and to a certain extent, at the moment we're looking for outstanding candidates. I guess as time wears on, we'll lower our aims a little if we still have gaps. At the moment though there are fantastic teachers who are becoming available in September, and I'm desperately hoping that we get at least one of them.

I think that the better candidate you are, the sooner you should hear. However, you will get bites from Unis. I don't think there's any harm sending applications in twice, but they may be potentially interested and just parking a decision for the time being. Speaking for myself, I'm very interested in teachers coming to China for the first time. I'm just not really interested in them yet.


I would say most Unis still

a) don't know which teachers are staying
b) don't know how many teachers they'll need in September.

It is still very, very early. My guess is that the peak for recruitment is late April / early May, but there'll still be plenty of jobs going in July / August, (maybe not the best jobs). though only a minority of Unis are recruiting at the moment, that's still a lot of Unis.

However, if you do have a small number of Unis that you are really interested in, maybe give them a ring and follow up on your application.

There's no one right way to do things, but you seem to be at least avoiding the wrong ways.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good points from Vikeologist.
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Lloyduss



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking at the south of China, so, Guangdong: Shenzhen, Macau, Huizhou, Guangzhou and Zhuhai etc. I know that by doing this I'm restricting my job opportunities but I really want to be near HK if possible as it's my first time going abroad. Plus, the south tends to have a lower pollution level than the north.

Thanks everyone thats exactly what I wanted to know, I'll try to find a few more Universities and re-apply late April Smile
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloyduss wrote:
I'm looking at the south of China, so, Guangdong: Shenzhen, Macau, Huizhou, Guangzhou and Zhuhai etc. I know that by doing this I'm restricting my job opportunities but I really want to be near HK if possible as it's my first time going abroad. Plus, the south tends to have a lower pollution level than the north.

Thanks everyone thats exactly what I wanted to know, I'll try to find a few more Universities and re-apply late April Smile


You may want to rethink Guangzhou.
http://aqicn.org/city/guangzhou/
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Lloyduss



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:


You may want to rethink Guangzhou.
http://aqicn.org/city/guangzhou/


Thanks for the heads up, but unfortunately most of China has bad pollution I mean Beijing is classed as Hazardous on most days (200+). I'm not planning to stay too long.


P.s. That website you posted is very useful by the way Very Happy
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
When should I hear from the Chinese Universities?


I once had a response TWO YEARS after I applied. Same thing happened with a school in Mexico.
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lemak



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess recruiters don't pay much attention to our resumes. I had one email me a job offer.....









....for the school I currently work at! Laughing
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