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Black_Beer_Man



Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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Location: Yokohama

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Living Cheaply in Japan Reply with quote

Are there any Yen pinchers in this forum? Are you good at stretching your yen? Please share your habits here.

1. Discounted obentos - You can get 20% off or more at the supermarket if you buy your obentos after 6pm. I prefer to cook, but this is a popular option with people.

2. Avoid drink vending machines - I've noticed when I've used them that 'll spend 360 yen just to buy 3 drinks throughout the day. In the course of a month, that's a lot of yen. It's also bad for the environment when we buy drinks in plastic bottles. Better to carry a reusable water bottle with tap water from home. Also. drink up lots of free water in restaurants and at work.

3. 100 yen shops - They have great deals, but don't browse or you will be enticed to buy things you had no plans to buy and probably don't need.

4. Sayonara sales - Look online at sites like Metropolis and Gaijin Pot for classified ads posted by foreigners leaving Japan who want to sell their things at bargain prices. You might pick up some appliances at low prices.

5. Drink wine or spirits instead of beer - Beer in Japan is taxed heavily while wine and spirits can be bought at bargain prices (Italian wine 500 yen / bottle. Beefeater Gin, 750 ml bottle = 1000 yen). I love beer, but to save money, I am going to drink wine and spirits most of the time. It's gonna be hard. Confused

There! I got us started. Please ad more money saving tips.
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kah5217



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Location: Ibaraki

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeping my receipts is helping me keep an eye on spending. I suggest watching how much each kombini sucks out of your wallet.
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Pitarou



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
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Location: Narita, Japan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best money saving tip: LOG YOUR SPENDING. Just for a month, keep a notebook with you and record every yen that goes out. You'll almost certainly be forced to confront some hard truths about your lifestyle. And, once you know how your budget breaks down, you know where it's worth expending a little effort on penny-pinching.

On the subject of alcohol, I've done some blind taste tests, and results indicate that happoushu (synthetic beer flavored drinks marketed like beer) are significantly cheaper and better tasting than the cheaper brands of real beer. You have to go up quite a lot in price to get something that tastes noticably better than the happoushu. If you're a penny pincher, try a carton of shouchu and some cheap mixers.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about free wi-fi connections? Are there any coffee shop chains that have them in Japan?
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
How about free wi-fi connections? Are there any coffee shop chains that have them in Japan?
None that I'm aware of, although a few independents and the occasional Starbucks have it. I make do without mobile internet.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Laws of Coffee-nomics, Alcho-nomics, Snack-onomics, and
Lunch-onomics in Japan


1. Avoid alcohol pretty much. Become a coffee man. If you go out for coffee, you will typically buy 1 cup of coffee and cake. If you go out for drinks, you will buy a lot... You are no longer in college, right? Drink at home if you have to. I generally drink only when forced to by work at work parties...

2. Bring a thermos of water with you to work, and hopefully if they have hot water pots - you can refill it there.

3. If you drive a car and even if you don't, carry a small thermos with you. When you need a break from your travels by car or commute by bus or train, you can stop and have a FREE drink.

4. Bring a lunch to work and pack a snack on a road trip or train trip. This will save money and the temptation to hit convenience stores.

5. If you really insist on alcohol or canned coffee, stock up on beer or canned coffee from supermarkets or better yet if you have an AZET near you. Do the math and find a deal. Some individual cans of coffee this way may cost you only 39 yen as opposed to up to 120 from a machine or convenience store.

6. If you like to snack at work, buy them ahead of time at a supermarket or better yet an AZET. You will get a much better deal than convenience stores. Much better. For example, a typical bar of Ghana chocolate sold at a convenience store might sell from anywhere between 100 yen and 120 yen. At a supermarket, it's not uncommon to find a Ghana or Meiji chocolate bar sold for 79 yen to 89 yen. That is a big savings for the chocolate connoisseur.

7. If you really insist on buying a lunch at work, buy instant yakisoba sometimes. It is very cheap. If that makes you sick, apply the 1 coin rule. I asked my father in law one time what the best lunch was in Japan and he answered 1 coin. That is - anything for 500 yen or less. Just remember this does add up pretty quickly though - so it is better to bring a lunch to work.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the Kanto area, 100 yen Lawson, Big A and Yamaya are your friends.

Make bento. Bento for two or more is cheaper than cooking for one. Pool funds with housemates.

Ride a bike to earn the bento Smile

Read http://tokyocheapo.com/
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jmatt



Joined: 29 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timothypfox wrote:
The Laws of Coffee-nomics, Alcho-nomics, Snack-onomics, and
Lunch-onomics in Japan


1. Avoid alcohol pretty much. Become a coffee man. If you go out for coffee, you will typically buy 1 cup of coffee and cake. If you go out for drinks, you will buy a lot... You are no longer in college, right? Drink at home if you have to. I generally drink only when forced to by work at work parties...

2. Bring a thermos of water with you to work, and hopefully if they have hot water pots - you can refill it there.

3. If you drive a car and even if you don't, carry a small thermos with you. When you need a break from your travels by car or commute by bus or train, you can stop and have a FREE drink.

4. Bring a lunch to work and pack a snack on a road trip or train trip. This will save money and the temptation to hit convenience stores.

5. If you really insist on alcohol or canned coffee, stock up on beer or canned coffee from supermarkets or better yet if you have an AZET near you. Do the math and find a deal. Some individual cans of coffee this way may cost you only 39 yen as opposed to up to 120 from a machine or convenience store.

6. If you like to snack at work, buy them ahead of time at a supermarket or better yet an AZET. You will get a much better deal than convenience stores. Much better. For example, a typical bar of Ghana chocolate sold at a convenience store might sell from anywhere between 100 yen and 120 yen. At a supermarket, it's not uncommon to find a Ghana or Meiji chocolate bar sold for 79 yen to 89 yen. That is a big savings for the chocolate connoisseur.

7. If you really insist on buying a lunch at work, buy instant yakisoba sometimes. It is very cheap. If that makes you sick, apply the 1 coin rule. I asked my father in law one time what the best lunch was in Japan and he answered 1 coin. That is - anything for 500 yen or less. Just remember this does add up pretty quickly though - so it is better to bring a lunch to work.


Hey! You forgot--

#8. Don't forget to enjoy your miserable, Scrooge-like existence. Wink
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Pitarou



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Location: Narita, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmatt wrote:
8. Don't forget to enjoy your miserable, Scrooge-like existence. Wink

9. Willcom still offer the best deal for cellphones, but make sure they have coverage in your area.

10. Be sure to get as many as possible of those free packets of tissues they hand out outside train stations.

11. Don't hire more hookers than you need -- you only have one dick, so one at a time is plenty. Even better, take advantage of the charisma man effect and get it for free.

12. 24 hour manga / Internet cafes are a good place to catch a few hours sleep. They often include showers.

13. You'll be amazed at the stuff Japanese people have to throw away. Look out for old furniture being left out as sodai gomi. I got a perfectly serviceable shoe cupboard and computer desk that way.

14. Crack and smack are horrifically expensive in Japan. Do as the locals do, fake some symptoms, and find a doctor who is liberal with his prescription pad. That's pretty much every doctor in Japan, by the way.

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Having just seen a case in which forum discussions are being cited in rape allegations, I feel I should point out that two of the abovementioned items are in jest.
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teacher4life



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to sit in the dark and cold, smiling to myself all the while about how much I'm saving on electricity.

Save on your water bill by only showering for 3 minutes once per week.
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Black_Beer_Man



Joined: 26 Mar 2013
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you want coffee outside, head to Mr. Donut. Their hot blend coffee includes free refills. You can just sit there and read or chat with a friend for hours and your cup is continually refilled by the employee that does coffee rounds.

At other coffee shops, ALWAYS but the smallest size cup of coffee. After all, most of the cost of a cup of coffee is not for the coffee, but to use the shop's tables and chairs. A home away from home. Enjoy!
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jmatt



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
When you want coffee outside, head to Mr. Donut. Their hot blend coffee includes free refills. You can just sit there and read or chat with a friend for hours and your cup is continually refilled by the employee that does coffee rounds.

At other coffee shops, ALWAYS but the smallest size cup of coffee. After all, most of the cost of a cup of coffee is not for the coffee, but to use the shop's tables and chairs. A home away from home. Enjoy!


Yes indeed! My house also has fluorescent lighting, lousy music, weak coffee, and packs of smoking salarymen. Rejoice!
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmatt wrote:
Black_Beer_Man wrote:
When you want coffee outside, head to Mr. Donut. Their hot blend coffee includes free refills. You can just sit there and read or chat with a friend for hours and your cup is continually refilled by the employee that does coffee rounds.

At other coffee shops, ALWAYS but the smallest size cup of coffee. After all, most of the cost of a cup of coffee is not for the coffee, but to use the shop's tables and chairs. A home away from home. Enjoy!


Yes indeed! My house also has fluorescent lighting, lousy music, weak coffee, and packs of smoking salarymen. Rejoice!


Good grief! Time to change coffee shops. Very Happy
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't buy bottled water. I was told yesterday by a Japanese employee that the tap water is good quality and safe throughout Japan. If you need a second opinion, check with someone who lives in your area.

Not only will you save money by not buying bottled water, but you will also help the environment because you will avoid cosuming petrol (which plastic bottles are made from) and avoid putting plastic bottles in landfills.

Even if a PET bottle is recycled, it sometimes still causes environmental harm. Some companies turn plastic bottles into fleece clothing. However, scientists have found that when you wash some brands of fleece clothing, tiny fragments breakaway and go into the rivers and oceans. These fragments have been found in sand samples from pretty much every beach where sand was collected and analyzed.

The solution is simple. Don't buy PET bottles. When you go out, use a refillable cup.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
Don't buy bottled water.
If you can't abide the tap water, use the distilled water service available at many supermarkets. Buy a big bottle (less than 1000 yen if memory serves) and then get infinite refills.
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