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[Joannda]

Hi all,
I am hoping to get a job teaching in Japan starting next year. I'm currently in New Zealand and want to apply from here. Not sure if there's any other kiwis out there? Anyway, I'm finishing of my degree at the moment, will be finished in November. I've heard you need to have your actual diploma in order to get a working visa in Japan. The graduation ceremony isn't till April here so does this mean I have to hang around until then or is there a different way to get a visa? Will they accept a letter or similar?
Also, not sure if you guys can help me with this but do you know whether AEON or GEOS come here for recruiting sessions? I know Nova has offices here but the other 2 I think are only in Oz or Canada. If they don't come here, do you think they would accept me based on phone interviews and the like?
Sorry I have a few questions at the moment... I was actually born in Holland, and then lived in Norway, so I didn't come to NZ until I was 12. I am eligible for a NZ passport so that isn't a problem, but do you think they would be disinclined to hire me just because I'm not a 'native' English speaker? New people I meet etc can never tell I'm a 'foreigner', and my English is better than most New Zealanders (not to blow my own horn). Should I simply not tell them I'm Dutch or what do you think?
Cheers!

[BenJ]

Few questions there:

1. When you graduate, ask for your degree - you don't have to wait for a ceremony months later to get it.

2. As far as I know, if you can't show up for AEON/GEOS interviews, they won't hire you. I had a similar problem in that they didn't come to my city in Australia.

3. Why tell them you are Dutch? It isn't exactly necessary to tell them unless they ask I guess, and if you can get an NZ passport, why would they ask? Otherwise I know of a few non-native speakers working here and none of them had problems getting jobs with the big 4 schools. Other people's experiences of this?

[Glenski]

From the GEOS web site:

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Contact the Australia and Oceania Hiring Office GEOS conducts periodic recruitment sessions for teachers from Oceania. Please watch this website for announcements and updates. In the meantime, feel free to forward your application to our Toronto office. Australia and Oceania also welcome applications for GEOS Children's Schools. Online applications can be made via www.geoskids.com.

From the AEON web site:

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Should you care to apply for a position with AEON, please submit the following (via postal mail or e-mail) to one of our recruiting offices. A current resume A one-page essay titled, "Why I Want To Live and Work in Japan" Please feel free to contact any of the AEON Recruiting Offices listed below. SYDNEY AEON Corporation Level 66, MLC Centre 19-29 Martin Place Sydney, NSW 2000 Australia TEL: (02) 9238-2348 FAX: (02) 9238-2355 EMAIL: [email protected]

Regarding your degree, just get a certified letter from the graduation office to prove you are going to get your degree.

[Li-ka]

Geos will only take your original diploma... ECC will take a transcript stating that you were awarded your degree. I think Nova may take a letter or a transcript too. I don't know about Aeon.

About being Dutch...If they don't ask about how much english schooling you've had, don't tell them... on that note, you must send ECC details of all of your schools to prove that you have had at least 12 years of school in an English language environment.

The big four usually recruit in many places and will probably have that info on their websites.

Best of luck to you!

[Joannda]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I actually just saw on the AEON website that they are coming to Auckland in July so that's cool! Will have to get everything together in the next week though! Any tips on interviewing session with AEON? Also, a different question, I went in to a travel agent the other week just to see about flight prices etc, and the lady suggested I may need to buy a return ticket or I won't be allowed in to japan?? Because they want to make sure you'll leave again or something? But if I have a working visa, shouldn't it be ok just to have a one way ticket? seems a bit silly to me...

[Glenski]

Here is what others have said about the AEON interview:

Interview experience 1 (April, 2003)
I was just hired by Aeon last week and I'm heading to Japan in a couple of months.

I found that the essay never once came up again during the 2 day interview process. Try to do a good job, but don't sweat it too much - make sure of your spelling and grammar though. Spellcheck isn't enough.

The interview process is two step. One group day and one individual day. For the group day I was one of 8 applicants. You'll have an info session and then be asked to teach a 5 minute lesson. You are expected to 'just go'. You can't be stopping to say: 'And now the students will do such and such' You can't stop the charade and ask questions. So just do it with as much confidence as possible.

On the second day you'll do another lesson, but this time, instead of applicants acting the role of students, the recruiters will. This is not as stressful as it sounds.

Remember that the recruiters are under pressure to find qualified candidates. I can't say for sure but I think the odds are stacked in the teachers' favor if you think of supply/demand at the present time.

Recruiters want:
Lack of immigration issues.
Lack of health issues.
COMMITMENT to do it for a year at least.
Some understanding of English grammar (there is a light quiz)
The ability to make small talk/be personable. -

I hope this helps. I researched a bunch of companies and interviewed for a few. I was offered employment by all of them and I chose Aeon because by all indications, they have the best official record, the best reputation and most importantly, the least disgruntled employees. Good luck. No need to be nervous. Let them know that you made an effort (such as by bringing teaching materials to your lesson) and that will go a long way.

Interview Experience 2 (March 2003)
My boyfriend just got a job with AEON, and I think he was hired because he showed that he was a 'people person' - He didn't have any teaching experience or TEFL qualifications or much knowledge about Japan, but he made sure that he showed an real interest in living in a different culture and learning about it whilst he was there.

When they asked him to do the on the spot lesson plan he messed it up but still got hired - because he didn't panic and admitted he had failings but expressed an eagerness to learn and become good at the job. He was friendly and open and I think that worked in his favour.

Interview experience 3 (March 2003)
I went through the lengthy interview process about 6 months ago.
Just go on the internet and pull up a lesson plan, maybe format it to the allotted time, level you choose, etc. Then, take 5 minutes of it and just practise it. Maybe make a handout or something. What's more important is to SMILE. Sad, but true. In my group of eight, I saw some truly sad performances and I'd bet they got a second interview. And I'm sure they understand if you're nervous. Plus, you don't necessarily have to teach them grammar -it can be another skill - speaking, for instance. so maybe type in your search engine - 'conversation lesson ESL' and see what comes up. Also, vocabulary lessons are very interesting.
Also, be prepared to write a short grammar quiz. They leave the room though, so you can cheat [though the stick in the muds I was with didn't talk].
But I'll warn you of something which caught me by surprise: at the second interview, they give you their textbook and five minutes to prepare a section to present to the interviewer. One of the only criticisms I got was that I wasn't smiling like an idiot [not their words].
Relax, have fun, and don't forget to SMILE!

Interview experience 4 (April, 2003)
If you would like a job in Japan, go for it. But choose a different avenue than AEON. Their two-day interview process is an adventure in tedium. The first day consists of an informational session during which they tell you what a wonderful company they are and what an honor it would be for you to work for them. "Experience Japan," they say, though they don't tell you how you're going to find the time to do that with their 36-hour-a-week work schedule. And of course, that's 36 hours a week wearing a little AEON pin: another warning sign that this is another purely financial endeavor that likes to use dedicated, intelligent people as stooges for their K-Mart version of language teaching. The second day consists of an additional ambush lesson you must give on a topic the interviewer will choose before you walk into the interview. The interviewer acts "like a Japanese student," trying to trip you up with obdurate questions and behavior. Never mind that they are engaging in the Mother of All Stereotypes. Questions from the interviewer will then consist of every question out of the blue you can imagine; "Well what do you think about working for a Japanese company?" A little bit difficult to answer since I've never worked for one before. "What other companies have you applied to?" Like that's any of their damn business! "Are you financially able to take on this experience," referring to the 1200 USD they recommend you bring with you to Japan to tide you over till the first check. Gee, I didn't know I needed to be rich in order to get a job! And of course, "Why do want to go to Japan," which I thought I had answered in their silly 1-page essay about WHY I WANT TO LIVE AND WORK IN JAPAN!!!!!! I guess they forgot what I had written! Another way they try to trip you up and find the slightest inconsistencies.
And all this for a job that pays 12-14 USD with outlets inside subway stations. Yes, "Experience Japan for 2 Minutes on a Pittance" ought to be their slogan. And in the end, they denied me while selecting an acquaintance with a lesser degree and no language-teaching experience. So if you don't care about wasting your time and money (especially if you're flying to an interview from a distant location), then go for it. But personally, I'd recommend searching Japan on your own and making arrangements individually, rather than relying on a snobby sweatshop to smooth out your journey to Japan.