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ssjup81 · Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:03 pm Post subject: What is considered "quitting"?

I know, an odd question. Just thought I'd get everyone's perspective here

Back in October, I was told by my employer at the time, that my contract would not be renewed. That was a blessing in disguise, getting down to it. So, from that point, I looked for employment. I did manage to get three job offers and took the one I'm currently at now.

In February, my boss asked me if I wanted leave March 15 or stay until the 28th. I chose the latter, but then thought about it and said that I'll leave on the 15th, because of the new job I'd found which would start on March 26.

Anyway, my pay for March was very low, not that I cared much, even if it was barely 30,000 yen (I'm not fighting this). I was free of the place, but the reason for the low pay was because I "quit" the company. I'm trying to figure out how that actually fits the definition of "quitting". I was told up front I wasn't going to be re contracted and they gave me the choice as to when I could finish up with them. In what way did I "quit"?

Is this common wording in Japan for eikaiwa?

Pitarou · Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan

If your contract finished on the 28th, but you announced that you were leaving on the 15th, then you (probably) quit.

ssjup81 · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:27 am Post subject:

But they offered the date and also told me I wasn't going to be hired back. Then again maybe you're right.

Pitarou · Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 1116 Location: Narita, Japan

marley'sghost · Joined: 04 Oct 2010 Posts: 255

You former employer is a jerk. They suckered you into "quitting" just to save themselves a bit of cash. I would be pretty relieved to be free of a job that resorts to dirty tricks like that too. I'm glad that gettting shorted the money is not a problem and you were not left out on the street. Price for a lesson learned.
I'm surprised they told you they were not going to renew you in October though. I'd have thought they'd have strung you along for a lot longer than that.

hagiwaramai · Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 119 Location: Marines Stadium

Either way, I think you should have still got more than 30,000yen. Whether you quit or not is irrelevant.

OneJoelFifty · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 463

ssjup81 · Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:14 am Post subject:

Well, I was very stressed from the job and I took off a lot of time (about three weeks in all), despite every time I took off I made visits to the doctor, which they knew. So I was docked for those times. Not like they offered paid sick time and apparently my time for staying as late as 10 and 11 at times didn't count for anything. He docked me for many things, apparently.

That aside I'm just glad to be gone, and didn't care about the cash. Getting kicked out of my apartment earlier than scheduled and not telling me until about two days before was more of a bother.

At this place, I wanted to pull a runner my first month in, but persevered. I liked the people and my students and the kindergarten kids and teachers.

I wasn't allowed to meet my replacement. I wasn't even given a name or a gender which made it difficult to prepare the students. My boss also said that I'm not allowed to visit the school at all even though he saw me telling our students that I promised to visit. He said it was because all of the students were angry with me. That was obviously a lie. He was trying to upset me since the pay thing didn't, I think. I talked with the school's owner and he was shocked. I was told that it was unusual. He told me to forget him (my boss) and to just visit him and his family and if I ever visit and need a place to stay i coukd crash there. His three daughters were my students. I don't think my boss liked me much. He was always the cause of my stress. I can now understand why no one has ever worked at this place for longer than a year (which I didn't know until this past January).

That aside, since I still keep in contact with some folks down there, students and parents, I learned a bit about my replacement. A more experienced teacher, older than I am, male. He started April 8. I just found out yesterday that he quit...or was fired, but I'm going with the former.

rxk22 · Joined: 19 May 2010 Posts: 1629

i don't think that would be considered quitting. As you were offered that date.

What is wrong with that place? Sounds like the owner needs to S can that manager.

ssjup81 · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:42 am Post subject:

Well I found out that he definitely quit. I was just sent a message about it from a friend/former student. He then said that "we have to wait 3 months". So I'm under the impression the school will be closed for that time. He didn't confirm that yet, though, but that's the only way I can interpret it.

JustinC · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:13 am Post subject:

Nickel and diming a leaving teacher? What has the world come to!!??!?!?!

ssjup81 · Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:44 am Post subject: