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kungfuman
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 Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:29 am Post subject: Five-year visas for foreigners on way |
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From ChinaDaily:
Five-year visas for foreigners on way - this might make life easier for those with long term China ambitions.
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Draft rule aims to attract talented professionals China urgently needs
Foreign talent will soon be eligible for China visas valid for up to five years, under a draft regulation.
The draft was released by the Legislative Affairs Office of the State Council on Friday, and public opinion is being sought for a month. It states that China will grant two new types of visa, R1 and R2, for foreign professionals.
Both types will be granted to foreign talent and professionals at senior level that the country urgently needs, according to the draft.
A R1 visa will come with residency rights, while a R2 visa will allow multiple entry and exits.
Liu Guofu, an immigration law specialist at the Beijing Institute of Technology, said R1 visa holders can apply for a residence permit for up to five years, while a R2 visa will allow professionals to stay in China for 180 days at a time.
The regulation will be implemented under the Exit and Entry Administration Law, which takes effect in July.
Visa holders should be experts recognized by provincial-level governments and above, and professionals that China urgently needs, according to the regulation.
Earlier rules endorsed by five ministry-level departments state that foreign professionals working on projects carried out by central government departments and centrally administered enterprises, and talent introduced through provincial-level recruitment programs, can benefit from the new long-term visas.
The new State Council regulation does not specify groups that China urgently needs and which are eligible for "talent visas". But Liu said a draft in which ministerial departments had assessed feedback from specialists, including Liu, shows they include candidates with management experience at leading multinationals, specialists in education and science-related fields, and renowned figures in culture and sport.
"The Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security or the State Administration of Foreign Experts Affairs may soon release the list of target groups," Liu said.
Wang Huiyao, director of the Center for China and Globalization in Beijing, said the new visas will help attract overseas talent.
"The regulation will especially lure those who work in other countries but want to spend time working in China," he said.
Wang said that in the past China had focused a great deal on how to manage foreigners working in or visiting the country when making or amending visa-related laws and regulations.
Rule: 'Green card' mulled
But now the country is aiming to attract global talent by providing more convenient visa policies, like many other countries, including the United States.
Quintus Doamekpor, a 34-year-old from Ghana, has been working in China for 11 years. He married a Chinese, has a daughter and works as a language teacher at a school in Yuncheng, Shanxi province.
Doamekpor said he has a foreign expert certificate, and his visa must be renewed every year.
"I hope to know more requirements for the new visa application and I want to be included," he said. "My ultimate aim is to obtain a permanent residence permit."
Liu has suggested that policies should give "talent visa" holders the chance of permanent residency after they have worked in China for a certain period.
The government is considering lowering the threshold for permanent residency.
The Ministry of Public Security is drawing up a draft regulation, under which foreigners who work in China for 10 consecutive years may be eligible for a "green card".
Meanwhile, the State Council regulation states that visa management bureaus and entry-and-exit management bureaus under public security departments can keep fingerprints of foreigners who enter China. |
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-05/04/content_16474513.htm |
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lemak
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If my job entails wiping little Minnie Zhang's bum after she has an accident of the floor of the kindy should I apply for an R1 or an R2? I'd hate to have my "Professional Expert" status confused as.....pfft.....mere "Foreign Talent"   |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| lemak wrote: |
| If my job entails wiping little Minnie Zhang's bum after she has an accident of the floor of the kindy should I apply for an R1 or an R2? I'd hate to have my "Professional Expert" status confused as.....pfft.....mere "Foreign Talent" |
In my career in China I have worked at mainly universities. Now I work in a high school. My part time job had me singing " I'm A Cat meow, meow, meow. I'm a Dog, woof, woof, woof..." to a bunch of 4-5 year olds.
In the end, the money is still red... (and easy...) |
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hilena_westb
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Foreign language teachers are hardly the purpose or intent of this soon-to-be rule. Believe-you-me, it will be used only for those of unique quality; not for the hoards of those that escape their land to come here and teach, unqualified'ly", etc.
It will be use for true experts. Not common folk on work visas hoping to find a way not to be forced back to their land. |
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xiguagua
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadly I kinda agree with Hilena. I don't think foreign teachers will be considered in "dire need." I think the big news for this will be that R2 Zvisas will be 180 days.........Quite a pain in the butt if you gotta worry about renewing it every 6 months. But who knows, maybe there will be an increase in 6month positions? |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe if you are married to a national you can get the 5 year visa. |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think I'd EVER commit to a five-year stint anywhere. That's just me, though. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| If you got some kind of entrepreneurial activity going, you might want to. |
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GreatApe
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:21 am Post subject: |
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It'll be interesting to see how it's implemented ... IF it's implemented.
I'm going to stay the course and work on getting through THE FIRST five years, before I sign on for another five years! 
--GA |
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DosEquisX
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| hilena_westb wrote: |
Foreign language teachers are hardly the purpose or intent of this soon-to-be rule. Believe-you-me, it will be used only for those of unique quality; not for the hoards of those that escape their land to come here and teach, unqualified'ly", etc.
It will be use for true experts. Not common folk on work visas hoping to find a way not to be forced back to their land. |
Spot on. That was my immediate thought when I read this article. |
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avigoldberg
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Not likely correct. Or not likely to be implemented any time soon.
I have been working in China for 10 years now. I went to sign a contract with a new school in Cixi (Zhejiang). The contract signing went well-- UNTIL IT WAS TIME TO GO THROUGH THE FOREIGN EXPERTS BUREAU.
The Ningbo Foreign Experts Bureau said that they were not willing to give a foreign experts certificate to people who had worked in China for more than 5 years. And that was just *their* particular policy. No appeal. No discussion. No reason. And this is not the first teacher to whom that has happened. They had a teacher to whom that had happened before. He worked at the same school in Web for every bit of 5 year. And then his permit was denied. Just like that.
Remember that most of us are not independently wealthy. Even if you get a 5 year visa from somewhere (and that is the PSB), you still have to get work permits (and a part of that is the State Bureau of Foreign Experts of whichever locality). They are fickle to say the least.
If anyone thinks that China is EVER going to get around to consistent law enforcement......Well, good luck with that. |
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