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ex500
Joined: 27 Nov 2010 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject: are salaries in KSA going up? |
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I was looking at the job board and saw some positions for $8,000 - $9,000 USD per month is this for real?
I know someone that got an offer of $60,000 a year all allowances included and I thought that was a lot considering he only had a BA and CELTA and 2 years experience.
I mean $8,000 a month is more than some physicians make in the US after taxes.
So are salaries going up and why are they paying so much? |
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Wilsonthefarmer

Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 152 Location: Riding my black horse
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: are salaries in KSA going up? |
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ex500 wrote: |
I was looking at the job board and saw some positions for $8,000 - $9,000 USD per month is this for real? |
Where did you see this?
I think the above salary is for medical consultants in hospitals, or managers in banks. |
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ex500
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:08 am Post subject: |
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It may be an ARAMCO recruiter. In that case, this number includes everything... salary housing and other benefits.
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Allizwell
Joined: 04 Nov 2010 Posts: 54 Location: KSA
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Yes. ARAMCO contracts via recruiters seem to be in that range this year since it is expanding its workforce due to saudization efforts. Therefore, they need lots of English trainers. So try your luck and get those apps in! |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Do not be tempted by the worm on the line. Aramco recruiters will dangle any old figures in their advertising and then offer you a sum that isn't even half what you applied for. If you challegne this, they'll swear blind that the advertising was nothing to do with them. Well, to a certain extent they are truthful because the advertising is done with recruiters who arrange interviews for the contractors. But they're in bed with each other anyway and both out to make as much money as they can at the deal. If you can't beat them join them...
My advice is this: figure out what you're worth and don't take a job for less than that. Be willing to turn down anything they offer you below it.
It is not worth coming to Saudi if you are going to be reminded at the end of every month that you are not getting what you feel you should be. There's just too much other crap to deal with.
So, make your mind up and stick to it. I had nothing to lose. After refusing two offers, I was eventually asked to name my price. They accepted it, so here I am. |
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jaffa
Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 403
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Mine goes up on a yearly basis. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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jaffa wrote: |
Mine goes up on a yearly basis. |
and yes, don't forget that an annual review based pay rise will be a percentage of your base salary so it makes sense to start as high as you can negotiate. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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The ad indicates "relevant" full-time English teaching experience. So what constitutes relevant experience in terms of teaching at a medical college or oil company. Perhaps that average monthly salary quoted likely reflects the pay for those with ESP, specifically industrial skills or medical domain teaching experience. |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps Aramco is paying this type of salary, but an 'average' salary for new recruits for university in Riyadh seems to be below 12K, unless one has been renewing every year. So I don't think the salaries are increasing, on the contrary. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:37 am Post subject: |
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In real terms, salaries have been decreasing for a long time. |
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jaffa
Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Posts: 403
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Prices are certainly going up and quite dramatically recently. I go to the supermarket every 10 days or so and always spent about 200SR. That's now 270SR buying the same stuff. Everyone is moaning about it. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Jaffa, to qualify for the %00 Club, you must mend you ways ! Youe profligacy can only end in tears and grief !
Here is a thought for you all
In 1970 when I went to my first job in KSA at the age of 23, a graduate teacher in UK earned �600 a year. My salary in KSA was three times that figure. Salaries are now about equal for a beginning teacher in the Uk and a teacher in a lower paid EFL job in KSA. |
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Wilsonthefarmer

Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 152 Location: Riding my black horse
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Jaffa, to qualify for the %00 Club, you must mend you ways ! Youe profligacy can only end in tears and grief ! |
scot47, I guess you meant the 500 Club?
BTW, do these club members still exist in the Magic Kingdom?
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In 1970 when I went to my first job in KSA at the age of 23, a graduate teacher in UK earned �600 a year. |
Before or after tax?
And how much was the tax on the salary in the 70s, scot47? |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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oops Yes 500 Club. The Club ne er has existed but is used as a way of poking fun at misers. No shortahe of them - the ones who steal toilet paper ratrher than buy it, and eat with the Bangladeshi cleaners rtaher than spend money for lunch.
�50 a month before tax, NI and superannuation deductions was the teacher's salary in 1970. My first job in KSA paid me 1900 SR a month plus housing allowance. Exchange rate was different then. If my menory is right it was around 11 SR to the UK�. |
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