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dfra
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 Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: Signing a Contract then redacting it |
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Hi all,
Since this will be my first Contract I have a question.
Knowing how Americans are much more prone to Contracts, if one signs a Contract with one school then receives a better offer from another, are they bound to go through with the Contract?
Assume the American, me, is in the United States.
Thank you.
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Signing a Contract then redacting it |
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| dfra wrote: |
Hi all,
Since this will be my first Contract I have a question.
Knowing how Americans are much more prone to Contracts, if one signs a Contract with one school then receives a better offer from another, are they bound to go through with the Contract?
Assume the American, me, is in the United States.
Thank you.
David |
ignoring the moral implications of keeping your word....i mean, you're
planning on going to china, right.......the answer is no.
you didn't actually sign a contract. you signed an agreement to sign a
contract. that paper you signed lets your school apply for your work
permit and visa invitation. once you arrive, you will go to the fao's
office and sign the real contract.
let's assume you change your mind, or are unable to follow through
due to health or family reasons..............why not be a nice fellow and
let the school know ASAP.
the next-in-line teacher shouldn't have to complain that the school
didn't give them enough time to prepare. and the school has to fork
out many renminbis to get you that paperwork. let 'em know before
they waste their time and money. |
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vikeologist
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:20 am Post subject: |
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The invitation letter costs the school a lot, and that's in addition to the staff time.
Legally you're unlikely to suffer any bad consequences, but if you are a decent or conscientious person you should only accept an offer if you're going to keep your word. Just make sure that you do all necessary research before accepting.
It's not really a contract though. Just a commitment letter. You'll sign the actual contract once you're in China probably. |
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doogsville
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Signing a Contract then redacting it |
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| dfra wrote: |
Knowing how Americans are much more prone to Contracts, |
I've never heard the word prone used in that context before. Is it similar to being prone to catching cold, or being prone to premature hair loss? |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| ^ Actually I thought he wrote Cataracts |
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| kungfuman wrote: |
| ^ Actually I thought he wrote Cataracts |
i was more confused now.
is this some new medical procedure?
getting your cataracts redacted? |
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dfra
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Contract then redacting it |
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Thanks everyone.
Yes I would notify the school should I change my mind.
Using "prone" was just easy at the time, although I actually meant "retract". Was late and I was tired. |
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vikeologist
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| Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you 'change your mind' for no good reason, after the school requests the invitation letter, I hope that you suffer the consequences.
If you wouldn't want to be screwed over, don't do it yourself. Seriously, it's a bad thing to do. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| vikeologist wrote: |
Well, if you 'change your mind' for no good reason, after the school requests the invitation letter, I hope that you suffer the consequences.
If you wouldn't want to be screwed over, don't do it yourself. Seriously, it's a bad thing to do. |
How much does the invitation letter actually cost? Is it a standardized cost or does it vary with location and type of school? |
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vikeologist
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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I think 2,000 RMB, but it might be more, and may vary by region. I can't see why someone would put a national price on it, but there's going to be a market rate that Public security bureaus ask for, and of course they have the monopoly so they can ask for such an extortionate amount.
Truthfully though, it's impossible to say.
You have to add on the cost of the time that the school spends on it, and I would guess they spend a lot more time and energy than the PSB, who let's be frank, just have to type in a few lines on a form and get their boss to sign it. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Op you changed your mind. Don't lose any sleep over it and don't worry about the school's expense to send you the invitation letter. Just send them a friendly email saying you regret that you can not work for them and you hope you and them can still have a good relationship for the future.
That's ALL you need to do. Do not give them ANY REASON for your change of heart. Keep that to yourself. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
| kungfuman wrote: |
| ^ Actually I thought he wrote Cataracts |
i was more confused now.
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Then our plan is working! |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| vikeologist wrote: |
The invitation letter costs the school a lot, and that's in addition to the staff time.
Legally you're unlikely to suffer any bad consequences, but if you are a decent or conscientious person you should only accept an offer if you're going to keep your word. Just make sure that you do all necessary research before accepting.
It's not really a contract though. Just a commitment letter. You'll sign the actual contract once you're in China probably. |
^ And don't take any of these words to heart. Keep in mind if a better suitable candidate walked in the school's door they would send you a rejection letter ASAP - no matter what hiring stage you were at and no matter if you already booked a nonrefundable air ticket. |
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Javelin of Radiance
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| kungfuman wrote: |
| vikeologist wrote: |
The invitation letter costs the school a lot, and that's in addition to the staff time.
Legally you're unlikely to suffer any bad consequences, but if you are a decent or conscientious person you should only accept an offer if you're going to keep your word. Just make sure that you do all necessary research before accepting.
It's not really a contract though. Just a commitment letter. You'll sign the actual contract once you're in China probably. |
^ And don't take any of these words to heart. Keep in mind if a better suitable candidate walked in the school's door they would send you a rejection letter ASAP - no matter what hiring stage you were at and no matter if you already booked a nonrefundable air ticket. |
Don't take this advice to heart either. If a school has already gone to the trouble of obtaining and sending you the work permit and invitation letter then they're unlikely to ditch you in favor of someone else. At this point in time it's the school that has something, or everything, to lose. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| ^ you are correct JOR - I should have added that this is my own opinion. |
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