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Riyadh, Jeddah or Al Khobar?
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georgiasmith



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Riyadh, Jeddah or Al Khobar? Reply with quote

Hello People
Offered a good teaching job in a choice of:
Riyadh, Jeddah and Al Khobar.
Would really appreciate some advice on which one to choose.
I am a woman in my 50s not interested in night clubs drinking etc. Would hope for some social life though book clubs, games etc etc.
Would love to be near the sea but hear Jeddah is dirty and polluted.
Also swimming and gym are very important to me.
Advice much appreciated
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Riyadh, Jeddah or Al Khobar? Reply with quote

georgiasmith wrote:
Offered a good teaching job in a choice of: Riyadh, Jeddah and Al Khobar.

Are you sure you're to be given a choice? If the offer is from a contracting company, you're not likely to have any say as to where you'd end up.
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georgiasmith



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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes definitely have a choice
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Riyadh, Jeddah or Al Khobar? Reply with quote

georgiasmith wrote:
Hello People
Offered a good teaching job in a choice of:
Riyadh, Jeddah and Al Khobar.
Would really appreciate some advice on which one to choose.
I am a woman in my 50s not interested in night clubs drinking etc. Would hope for some social life though book clubs, games etc etc.
Would love to be near the sea but hear Jeddah is dirty and polluted.
Also swimming and gym are very important to me.
Advice much appreciated



All Cities = pollution

I am biased in favor of Riyadh mostly for the dry air as opposed to both coastal cities being quite sticky & humid. Generally speaking, I have heard that both costal cities are more open and liberal in comparison to Riyadh, but I think this is a subtle difference IMHO.

No interest in nightclubs or drinking??? Welcome to KSA...as there are no legal establishments that offer such entertainment. You develop your own social net work as you get to know your way around and meet people...if this is something you desire it's up to you to make it happen.

Quite frankly, the main focus should be the quality of the work place. if you have a crappy work place, then I doubt it will matter which city you are living in....life in general will be a daily misery.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeddah, although the high humidity in summer can be a bit much.
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Heaton



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Khobar has the most foreigners thanks to the oil industry and the presence of Aramco. There are English book exchanges on the Aramco compound. The Eastern Province is "liberal" by Saudi standards, so it provides more social freedom than other parts of the country.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khobar (well, Dhahran) has the best library in KSA. The KFUPM Library can be used by non-university personnel - and EVEN BY WOMEN. The library is smaller than the mammoth one in Riyadh, but has a cataloguing system that functions. Huge collection of academic books on the region and works of general interest. Your chance to read, for example, the Complete Works of Trollope.

In Jeddah there is an excellent lending library Based on the grounds of the British Consulate (The BCL - British Community Library) Membership is open to those with "Western" passports.

Of course Riyadh has an Opera House but the Religious Establishment will not allow it to operate !
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Riyadh, Jeddah or Al Khobar? Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
If the offer is from a contracting company, you're not likely to have any say as to where you'd end up.


Al Hoty allow you to choose your location so this is definitely not the case for all contractors.

If the OP enjoys a pool and a gym, a compound would probably be best. There seems to be more availability and choice compound-wise in Khobar than I've heard there is in Riyadh or Jeddah.

Pricey, but cheaper than living on a compound are memberships at hotel gyms/pools... but then, women might not be allowed in. The Crowne Plaza in Khobar would happily let my wife watch me swim, for example. And they wouldn't let her in the gym at all.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If in Jeddah checko ut the Italina Club which has pool and sports facilities. Non-Italians are accepted as members but the Bearded and Pious are not !

Located in Baghdadiya bear the old Centre ("Balad")
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Wilsonthefarmer



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Of course Riyadh has an Opera House but the Religious Establishment will not allow it to operate !

Well, scot47, the only opera in the Magic Kingdom is the Janadriyah festival, where the religious police are kicked out from the dance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NamXezbq-ig
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is an Opera House in Riyadh - financed by one of the royals and waiting for the day when the Bearded Ones let it operate !
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bounce



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for Riyadh - bigger expat community so you will find people who share your interests, lots of opportunities to socialise through clubs / societies / friends you make as you go around. The swimming will be easy if your employer accommodates you on a decent compound or DQ, but it's not that hard to get to know people on compounds and visit. Also, the climate in Riyadh is a lot easier to live with. Jeddah and Khobar are unbelievably sweaty and humid when it's hot. And 'liberal by Saudi standards' is a pretty meaningless concept, so ignore that.

I'd say Riyadh unless:
a) you're mad about diving and want to spend every weekend under the Red Sea - go to Jeddah
b) you're a desperate drinker and won't survive without regular top-ups - go to Khobar and spend your weekends (and all your money) in Bahrain
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georgiasmith



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all and particualrly Bounce (full marks for actually answering the questions I asked!!!). I will follow your advice.

A bit worried by Saudi posts in general though! Seems like you have all gone a bit stir crazy?????? Hope that's not me in a year!
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jaffa



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry georgiasmith, it will be. Smile It's the sun and culture.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Georgiasmith:

There are several very useful blogs faithfully maintained by some knowledgeable expat women. They took time to answer my questions about living in the Kingdom. Do an Internet search on: blueabaya americanbedu susie of arabia blog.
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