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I've changed job and I need to renew my visa

 
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hiddenninja



Joined: 29 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: I've changed job and I need to renew my visa Reply with quote

Hi,

Ive changed job since taking out my first No Inmigrante Visa (formerly FM3) ...will this make the renewal process much more difficult and what else will I need?


Thanks in advance
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notamiss



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX

PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My (semi-)informed guess: All the usual documentation plus a letter from your former employer and a letter from your new employer. It shouldn�t be more difficult if the letters are written to the correct specifications. If the employers don�t know what�s required, the immigration office should be able to tell you.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a hard switch...start here.

http://www.inm.gob.mx/static/Tramites_LM/Estancia_LM/Notificacion_LM/Notificacion_de_cambio_de_lugar_de_trabajo_por_parte_de_residentes_temporales_y_permanentes.pdf

It can be done in one letter, by you though I would bring in a letter from the new employer just to be safe.
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MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Location: 17�48'N 97�46'W

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure how they handle it since the changes that took effect in Novemeber, but prevous to that there were two different processes. First you must change your employer, then you must renew you FM3 for another year. Now that it's not and FM3 who knows. But previously those were two different tramites, each with it's own fee, and they wouldn't do them at the same time. Once the change of employer was processed then you could submit the renewal.
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Tretyakovskii



Joined: 14 Aug 2009
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Location: Cancun, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notification of a change of employers is required. A letter sufficed under the old law, now there is a tramite for it (since November 11, last year).

Until the 11 of November, last year, you had just 30 days from the date of the change of employers in which to present the letter, notifying INM of the change. Under the current law you have 90 days from the date of the change in which to start the tramite.

If the change of employment occurred more than 90 days ago your notice of the change is overdue in either case. If your renewal will be filed within 90 days of the change of employment you can dispense with giving notice, as it will be implicit in your application for renewal, as I see it.
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MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:

If the change of employment occurred more than 90 days ago your notice of the change is overdue in either case. If your renewal will be filed within 90 days of the change of employment you can dispense with giving notice, as it will be implicit in your application for renewal, as I see it.


Under the old system, we had a teacher start working for us who had already been working in Mexico. Her visa was about 60 days from expiring. She took all the documents to the immigration office, and they would not process her renewal, only change of employer. After that was completely done, then they processed her renewal. Again, this was under the old system. But I don't see change of employer as being implict in an application for renewal. I see it the opposite. A renewal implies that your situation will continue as it was when you were granted the visa.
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Tretyakovskii



Joined: 14 Aug 2009
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Location: Cancun, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Her visa was about 60 days from expiring.

That's all we need to know to understand why they wouldn't deal with the renewal, as it would have been a premature request. The other item, that of the notice of change of employer, was due. What INM insisted on doing was orderly, in keeping with the law, and just what we would have expected in that case.

My point about not needing to act on the notice of change of employer when it occurs within the 90 days prior to renewal is similar, in a way: the renewal would become due before the notice of change of employer, and INM would learn of the change in the process of handling the renewal. They couldn't require the additional tramite because it would not have been due.

As for it being implicit, the documents submitted for renewal of permission to work in Mexico would be based on the new, existing employment: the change in employment would appear in the documents themselves, hence my comment. To avoid confusion, I'd include in the letter accompanying the tramite the date on which I'd changed employers so that they could see that I hadn't let this slip.

Others could easily see this in a different light: this just happens to be the way I see it, and I'm always open to correction by experience if what I try with INM doesn't work!
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inotu-unotme



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay I've read everything here. But, I"m still trying to understand. If I have an active fm3 that has not expired. Then I go and get a new job at a different school. Do I have to still worry about going out of the country to register paperwork at a Mexican embassy? Or, according to the new laws can I still do everything within the country of Mexico?

There was a man at a school interested in hiring me. But, he swore I could do whatever I needed to do without leaving Mexico. I didn't know if he was familiar with the new laws or he was unfamiliar with the new process.
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Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that you have to go to your nearest INM office and register a change of employer.
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inotu-unotme



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
I believe that you have to go to your nearest INM office and register a change of employer.

Okay, thanks. I've heard mixed things I think partly because it's a different process according to a persons specific circumstances. My main fear is having to leave the country to deal with paperwork at a Mexican embassy. Money is somewhat tight right now - so - taking a trip out of the country doesn't work.
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donato



Joined: 05 May 2010
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Location: Mexico City, Mexico

PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inotu-unotme wrote:
Isla Guapa wrote:
I believe that you have to go to your nearest INM office and register a change of employer.

Okay, thanks. I've heard mixed things I think partly because it's a different process according to a persons specific circumstances. My main fear is having to leave the country to deal with paperwork at a Mexican embassy. Money is somewhat tight right now - so - taking a trip out of the country doesn't work.


You're not going to have to leave the country.
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inotu-unotme



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

donato wrote:
inotu-unotme wrote:
Isla Guapa wrote:
I believe that you have to go to your nearest INM office and register a change of employer.

Okay, thanks. I've heard mixed things I think partly because it's a different process according to a persons specific circumstances. My main fear is having to leave the country to deal with paperwork at a Mexican embassy. Money is somewhat tight right now - so - taking a trip out of the country doesn't work.


You're not going to have to leave the country.


Okay, thank you. You just took a load off my mind.
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