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Anxiety problems; visa and working in Saudi Arabia
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j44



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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:40 pm    Post subject: Anxiety problems; visa and working in Saudi Arabia Reply with quote

dear all,

I do have a fairly pressing question. I am thinking of applying for teaching jobs in Saudi Arabia but I do have a history of anxiety and panic attacks (within the last 5-6 years). From what I have read, I understand that you have to declare it possibly at the state of visa application. Moreover, I read that in Saudi Arabia it is difficult to find anti-anxiety drugs, such as Valium or Xanax. Thank you for your help
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Sheik Yerbuti



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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really dig the quality, veracity, and utility of the new breed
of posters (posers?) on the Saudi board...
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Anxiety problems; visa and working in Saudi Arabia Reply with quote

j44 wrote:
dear all,

I do have a fairly pressing question. I am thinking of applying for teaching jobs in Saudi Arabia but I do have a history of anxiety and panic attacks (within the last 5-6 years). From what I have read, I understand that you have to declare it possibly at the state of visa application. Moreover, I read that in Saudi Arabia it is difficult to find anti-anxiety drugs, such as Valium or Xanax. Thank you for your help

The best anti-anxiety treatment is to avoid the Magic Kingdom.
The Magic Kingdom is the third most anxious country among the 13 that JWT has surveyed since February 2009.
http://anxietyindex.com/2010/02/anxiety-in-saudi-arabia-centered-around-unemployment-and-health/
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best advice is do not come if you are on psychotropjc medication.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Anxiety problems; visa and working in Saudi Arabia Reply with quote

j44 wrote:
dear all,

I do have a fairly pressing question. I am thinking of applying for teaching jobs in Saudi Arabia but I do have a history of anxiety and panic attacks (within the last 5-6 years).

Under this circumstances, I would stay far far away from Saudi and not even consider teaching or living there... even if you are Muslim.

VS
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all think of places we'd like to live and teach, but heed the others' warnings...know thy self and what you are capable of handling/ managing...

Seriously, Saudi Arabia is NOT the place for anyone who has anxiety or panic attacks. If you are remotely susceptible, this would be the country where you could develop such afflictions.
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clyde



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will offer a different slant. No you will not find those medications, and being caught with them would be VERY serious. On the other hand, I found Canada and South Korea far more stressful than my life here. If you are the type of person that settles into a routine, you will be fine. I am the kind of person that craves new things and adventure, so I have the opposite problem; Saudi can be extremely boring. If you do decide to come, I suggest desisting from being so open about your issues. While fellow Westerners will be more open and sympathetic, the Saudis won't.
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clyde wrote:
I will offer a different slant. No you will not find those medications, and being caught with them would be VERY serious. On the other hand, I found Canada and South Korea far more stressful than my life here. If you are the type of person that settles into a routine, you will be fine. I am the kind of person that craves new things and adventure, so I have the opposite problem; Saudi can be extremely boring. If you do decide to come, I suggest desisting from being so open about your issues. While fellow Westerners will be more open and sympathetic, the Saudis won't.


I have never experienced panic or anxiety attacks, but have known people that suffer from such afflictions. It is difficult to understand just how debilitating it can be. I would guess it is not a situation easily handled even in one's home country, but at least the person would be within a familiar setting with access to family doctor etc. On the other hand being thousands of kilometers away in an unfamiliar setting would only enhance/ magnify the situation and be very difficult to get help if and when needed. Also the problem of obtaining prescription drugs may be the most important issue to consider. The person would be a train wreck waiting to happen.

Not sure how a person is able to develop any sort of routine when one is managing or fighting off an anxiety or panic attack Rolling Eyes could not extreme boredom also be a trigger for such attacks??? Hard to say what would trigger such an attack... Cool knowing what I know of KSA, it's the last place I would want to be if I had this problem.

If you had an 'attack' here they would probably lock you up you in the mental ward or worse put you in jail ???? Shocked
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in another thread, the OP mentions that they are Italian. Would that in any way negatively effect their ability to secure a position in SA?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem, of course, is that no one can "predict" with total accuracy how anyone else will "react" to the Kingdom.

Just because I or you were able to "adjust/not adjust easily has no bearing on how the OP will.

However, given the circumstances mentioned by the OP, I think that it would be dangerous to try to assure the OP that she "will be fine," even if such an assurance is conditional.

Taking those circumstances into consideration, I'd say that Saudi would not be a wise choice.

Regards,
John
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j44



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear all,

many thanks for your replies, your advice has been quite helpful.
Now I do have a clearer picture and Saudi Arabia does not seem a wise choice. I do wonder whether the other Gulf countries are similar in this respect.

All the best
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fledex



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apply to Edex. These kinds of problems will probably help you move up in the company. Talk to the management.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

j44 wrote:
dear all,

I do wonder whether the other Gulf countries are similar in this respect.

All the best


No. Saudi Arabia is the only exception. No other Gulf country is like them. They have a religious chip on their shoulders here. They use this for all it's advantages and political jockeying too.

Grendal

The guardian of the three laws of robotics
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Grendal



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
Apply to Edex. These kinds of problems will probably help you move up in the company. Talk to the management.


The company of multiple in-competencies?

Sounds like a learning style.

Grendal
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CANDLES



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear j44

Please don't go to the Gulf/KSA or anywhere remotely like that if you have problems.
Unfortunately the expats who are there will be okay with you for awhile, after that there won't be any help for you from them. Everyone is there for their own benefit and having a sick colleague to worry about is not going to cut it. Have a cold, flu etc and yes you'll be fine, but anything major..sorry no.

Best to stay in the 'Western' world where you will be looked after with the right medicines. Good Luck!
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