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shaykh1985



Joined: 03 Mar 2013
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: My Options... Reply with quote

I just had a query...

I am CELTA qualified...have a degree...1 year of experience...and British...

If I was to arrive in Mexico City in either September or January what kind of options are available to me?...what kind of salary should I be looking at?...I get the impression that 10k is the minimum that most survive on?...

I'm not particularly bothered about saving money...just ensuring I have enough to enjoy myself...I would be arriving with between �1-2k...is that enough start up money...

Thanks...
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2000 British pounds is about 40,000 pesos. Depends on how frugal you are, but that would last me about five months. Keep in mind that when you first get there you'll be spending a lot to get "set up" and getting to know the best deals. Once again, I'm looking at this from my own perspective, so I'd say it would be good for about three months. But then I'd be broke. Too close for my own comfort.
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notamiss



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that since the immigration reform process has been implemented, you have to apply for a working visa at the Mexican consulate in your home country.

Most employers were accustomed to hiring people only after they had met them face to face. They used to hire English teachers that were on a tourist visa and supported them or at least waited for them to convert the visa to a working visa in Mexico. Now those in-country visa conversions aren�t being done any more � the system has changed with the reform.

See the threads http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101430 and http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101036 for more information about the new process.


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shaykh1985



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
2000 British pounds is about 40,000 pesos. Depends on how frugal you are, but that would last me about five months. Keep in mind that when you first get there you'll be spending a lot to get "set up" and getting to know the best deals. Once again, I'm looking at this from my own perspective, so I'd say it would be good for about three months. But then I'd be broke. Too close for my own comfort.


If you can elaborate...are you saying that would last you 5 months without work?...or on top of your job?...

I'm expecting high start up costs ie rent in advance etc...but ideally after the first month I would be hoping I can live of my salary solely...

Most guys on the forum seem to have lots of experience...for someone in my position would the average starting salary allow me a decent lifestyle?...
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, five months with no income. That is after I'd been there for a few months and found the better deals on housing, shopping, etc.
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shaykh1985



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notamiss wrote:
The problem is that since the immigration reform process has been implemented, you have to apply for a working visa at the Mexican consulate in your home country.

Most employers were accustomed to hiring people only after they had met them face to face. They used to hire English teachers that were on a tourist visa and supported them or at least waited for them to convert the visa to a working visa in Mexico. Now those in-country visa conversions aren�t being done any more.

See the threads http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101430 and http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101036 for more information about the new process.


Thanks...I'll give them a read...
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donato



Joined: 05 May 2010
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Location: Mexico City, Mexico

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still a lot of language schools you can get work at that pay in the $150 net range that are hiring and don't care about Visas.
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BadBeagleBad



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

donato wrote:
Still a lot of language schools you can get work at that pay in the $150 net range that are hiring and don't care about Visas.


Which means you would be working illegally and subject to fines and/or deportation. If that doesn�t bother you, come on ahead.
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadBeagleBad wrote:
donato wrote:
Still a lot of language schools you can get work at that pay in the $150 net range that are hiring and don't care about Visas.


Which means you would be working illegally and subject to fines and/or deportation. If that doesn�t bother you, come on ahead.


I've been wondering when the other shoe would drop on this. In DF, migra enforcement has always been very lax. But the new rules imply that there should also be a beefing up of visits to schools and institutes, particularly if they are being stricter on the Mexican to foreigner employee ratio.
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BadBeagleBad



Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Location: 24.18105,-103.25185

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
BadBeagleBad wrote:
donato wrote:
Still a lot of language schools you can get work at that pay in the $150 net range that are hiring and don't care about Visas.


Which means you would be working illegally and subject to fines and/or deportation. If that doesn�t bother you, come on ahead.


I've been wondering when the other shoe would drop on this. In DF, migra enforcement has always been very lax. But the new rules imply that there should also be a beefing up of visits to schools and institutes, particularly if they are being stricter on the Mexican to foreigner employee ratio.


Early reports indicate that things are becoming MUCH stricter. I know of three schools or institutes who have been fined, one of them had to pay a large fine. No one was deported, but according to what I was told there was some kind of notation made at Migration that will make it harder, if not impossible, for the people involved to work legally in the future. Perhaps you could still get away with teacher private students that you find on your own, but I think the laxity of enforcement in Mexico City is becoming a thing of the past.

How is that playing out, MotherF, with your school hiring only native speakers to teach English? Or is the language center a part of the whole university and thus far less than the 10% that is allowed?
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MotherF



Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The center is absolutely part of the whole university. If we need an additional foreigner (English teachers are not the only foreigners working here) we can hire an additional gardener, problem solved. (but we are not near 10% I think the university has around 600 employees).

We did get our first (and so far only) ever visit from INM last summer though as they were gearing up for the change over.
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
The center is absolutely part of the whole university. If we need an additional foreigner (English teachers are not the only foreigners working here) we can hire an additional gardener, problem solved. (but we are not near 10% I think the university has around 600 employees).

We did get our first (and so far only) ever visit from INM last summer though as they were gearing up for the change over.


That is good news!
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