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Which provinces let u apply for a visa outside your country?
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stinkytofu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Which provinces let u apply for a visa outside your country? Reply with quote

I'm currently in the Philippines and looking for a job in China. I heard only certain provinces will let you apply outside your country of citizenship, if so which ones? Thanks.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I don't know, although Shanghai seems to get mentioned in these types of discussions. I'm pretty sure my current province of Guangdong is negative on that.

It may make a difference whether you have residency status (not just a tourist or visitor visa) in the Philippines or not. That is it may be possible for you to apply at the local PI consulate if you can show residency permission. Otherwise, hopefully other posters can give you a better idea of where in China to apply. Good luck.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Several years ago I was able to receive my Z visa in the Philippines, but my understanding is that is no longer possible.
The China consulate in Cebu was very helpful when I was there. Maybe you could try asking them.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hainan.......NO

'member, it's not just the province. there's also the embassy to worry about.
the provincial authorities may be happy to send you a visa invitation letter
with "apply in karaokestan," .....the embassy may (or may not) issue you
a work visa.

often it depends on what type of visa you have for that third country.
currently, to get a work visa in thailand, you must be on a long-term
(work or study) visa. no work visas if on a thai tourist visa (or visa waiver).
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
Hainan.......NO

'member, it's not just the province. there's also the embassy to worry about.
the provincial authorities may be happy to send you a visa invitation letter
with "apply in karaokestan," .....the embassy may (or may not) issue you
a work visa.

often it depends on what type of visa you have for that third country.
currently, to get a work visa in thailand, you must be on a long-term
(work or study) visa. no work visas if on a thai tourist visa (or visa waiver).


My understanding about the Philippines is that it is the same.
The OP probably should visit the China embassy or consulate in the Phils.
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Toast



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately there's no consistent answer, and as the rules seem to change from month to month things which may have been fine for *us* when we got the visa no longer are.

For example I got my Z visa in Thailand on a visa waiver 2 years ago....no problem...advised others it was possible to do, and then had someone come back at me 6 months later telling me they'd been refused, acting all accusatory and snooty at *me* for giving bad information - like I dictate policy decisions made by The Embassy and Consulate Gererals of the People's Republic of China in the Kingdom of Thailand. Go figure.

Like Chou said, too there's no connection between what the PSB in China decrees and what the actual embassy decides to do. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing or however the saying goes.

The Chinese government says you can get your visa issued in Singapore, and states so on your work invitation letter...great....get to the embassy in Singapore to be told you can't get your visa done here - "Go home!"

Unless things have changed *most* provinces still allow you to apply from third country Chinese embassies, whether said embassies will let you apply is a different story.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hubei. Myself (US citizen in Mexico) in February 2012 and a Dane in the UK in September 2012.
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Albert Cribbins



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:57 am    Post subject: a good question Reply with quote

A good question indeed by the OP. Guangdong, Hebei, definitely not. Also Inner Mongolia and I would say Xinjiang is not doable. I asked about Zhejiang and it still seems ok so far, I've also heard fujian is ok. Either way looks like we will all have to return home to get our police clearance Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil
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lionheartuk



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if this is useful regarding Guangdong but on the z visa part...
http://www.gz.gov.cn/publicfiles/business/htmlfiles/gzgoven/s7272/index.html#
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Voyeur



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no idea this was an issue. So even if you haven't lived in your country of citizenship in years, you can be forced to go back home for your first Z Visa?

Do you need to return every year?
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Javelin of Radiance



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
I had no idea this was an issue. So even if you haven't lived in your country of citizenship in years, you can be forced to go back home for your first Z Visa?

You're not forced to do anything. Seems only a few provinces require returning home for the Z visa, and working in one of those places is a choice. Other provinces don't require going home to get the visa, and you're free to look for jobs in those provinces, or other countries.

Voyeur wrote:
Do you need to return every year?

If you continue working in China without any breaks you only need the Z visa once.
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Albert Cribbins



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:16 am    Post subject: subjective? Reply with quote

Quote:
Seems only a few provinces require returning home for the Z visa, and working in one of those places is a choice.


Until the law comes into effect and the school year next year ends, who knows? It could be nationwide, shall just have to see which way the blind blows.... Rolling Eyes
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bestteacher2012



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: subjective? Reply with quote

Albert Cribbins wrote:
Quote:
Seems only a few provinces require returning home for the Z visa, and working in one of those places is a choice.


Until the law comes into effect and the school year next year ends, who knows? It could be nationwide, shall just have to see which way the blind blows.... Rolling Eyes


What law? Different provinces interpret rules differently. Some provinces require you to return to your home country where as others allow you to apply in a third country.
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Albert Cribbins



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:58 am    Post subject: lawz? Reply with quote

Er, this upcoming law? Which I was also recently ADVISED of in Hong Kong.

http://www.gzstuff.com/forum/topics/new-visa-laws-as-of-july-1

Get it now? Got it, good Twisted Evil
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Albert Cribbins



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:01 am    Post subject: and here from the chinese government site Reply with quote

http://www.gov.cn/flfg/2012-06/30/content_2174944.htm

Hope this makes things clearer than mud Twisted Evil Laughing
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