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Javelin of Radiance
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
I knew Javelin would step in to try to defend.
Check a Chinese source[trust your fellow countrymen!]
http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html
150-200 ranking, alongside world renowned greats as
University of Leeds
University of Waterloo
University of Munster
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There are three respected university ranking tables available.
QS World University Rankings (published in UK) puts Tsinghua at Number 48.
http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012
Times Higher Education (published in UK) puts Tsinghua at Number 52.
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2012-13/world-ranking
The Academic Ranking of World Universities (published in China) puts it between Number 150-200.
http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html
If the Chinese source ranked Tsinghua at #48 instead of #150 people like larssoncrew would be trying to discredit that report as either having unsound methodology or being biased in favor of their own. But since ARWU's lower ranking confirms his preconceived notion that Tsinghua sucks^^ then its good as gold (for today anyway). Instead we have two British publications showing Tsinghua rated much higher, publications whose methodology and results, under any other circumstances, Larssoncrew would probably defend and agree with.
I couldn't care less about the university rankings, I work where I work because they pay me well and I like it. And none of these tables are entirely accurate anyway. But it is fun to poke holes in some of the weak arguments posted on this forum. I hope you get better results in the courtroom counsellor 
^^#150-200 in the world ain't too bad. I'm guessing it's still higher than the schools most of us on this forum graduated from. |
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LarssonCrew
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Actually the law firm I worked for in London was told to refuse ALL applications with degrees from China, because of corruption and exam fixing.
Same applied for our sister branches in South Africa and New York.
So the rankings really count for nothing internationally. |
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LarssonCrew
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| In reply to the original poster, I found that the ex pat scene is largely based around alcohol. First year is great, partying, spending your wages, but if you drop the partying illusion, there's hardly a quiet pub scene to hit up, and if there is, the prices are higher than back home! |
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Leafy Greens
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Is there a jazz scene? I play double bass, which is a hard position to fill in jazz combos. I was hoping to find a steady, upscale gig with some reasonably good players.
| LarssonCrew wrote: |
| In reply to the original poster, I found that the ex pat scene is largely based around alcohol. First year is great, partying, spending your wages, but if you drop the partying illusion, there's hardly a quiet pub scene to hit up, and if there is, the prices are higher than back home! |
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doogsville
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| Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
Actually the law firm I worked for in London was told to refuse ALL applications with degrees from China, because of corruption and exam fixing.
Same applied for our sister branches in South Africa and New York.
So the rankings really count for nothing internationally. |
Wow! So the law firm you worked for in London is considered the absolute arbiter internationally when it comes to matters relating to Chinese universities, that really is amazing! One has to wonder why you left such a prestigious outfit to come and teach in China, the country you hate so much. Then one has to wonder why you stay. Perhaps your bitterness and narrow minded attitude had something to do with it? Anyway, what do I know? As someone who disagrees with you on a regular basis I'm obviously just a Chinese spy lurking on this board to bolster China's image among would be English teachers who are regularly lured here under false pretences, then exploited mercilessly.
To the OP. As you can see from Dave's, China has a mixture of expats ranging from the bitter, sad individuals who will spew bile at every opportunity, to the helpful, emotionally mature kind who will try to help when they can. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I'm only familiar with Qingdaoexpat and it was very family orientated. They had a yacht (keelboat) which you could hire and annual balls, plus musical productions.
My original advice stands. Don't procrastinate at this stage as you will miss out. |
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Javelin of Radiance
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| Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:57 am Post subject: |
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thebeijinger.com
bjstuff.com
both decent expat sites that will help you find what you need. |
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whitehouse
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:54 am Post subject: Teaching at Tsinghua |
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| There are many different kinds of job at Tsinghua but my experience a few years ago now was of subject teaching on IFY(international foundation courses) and pre-postgraduate courses. IFY courses are trawling for Chinese students . IFY courses are run by foreign staff and are IFY by trade and Sniffy by nature. Tsinghua often attracts petty snobs amongst some of the foreign staff and I personally was glad to leave. The pollution in Beijing was and I beleive still is another factor of concern. |
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5h09un
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it's probably one of the best jobs. your pay will be pretty low because it's a uni job, but you'll have free housing and i bet more highly paid part time opportunities than you can shake a stick at.
some guy teaching english at tsinghua wrote a column in the new york times last year too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/opinion/china-as-a-destination-for-job-seekers.html
i don't know much else about this though. |
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Leafy Greens
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| Thanks, I appreciate it. |
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rogerwilco
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| If you have a job at one of the top universities you should be able to get 300RMB or more per hour tutoring. |
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Albert Cribbins
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: interesting |
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| Got anything to back this up, as don't all chinese teachers only get 100 an hour *sarcasm* |
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GuestBob
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| rogerwilco wrote: |
| If you have a job at one of the top universities you should be able to get 300RMB or more per hour tutoring. |
Settle down.
If you have a PhD and lecture in Physics or Chemistry then yes. An English teacher who isn't David Nunnan, no. |
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5h09un
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| GuestBob wrote: |
| rogerwilco wrote: |
| If you have a job at one of the top universities you should be able to get 300RMB or more per hour tutoring. |
Settle down.
If you have a PhD and lecture in Physics or Chemistry then yes. An English teacher who isn't David Nunnan, no. |
...if i had those qualifications i don't think i'd need part-time work anywhere, least of all in mainland china. |
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5h09un
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| rogerwilco wrote: |
| If you have a job at one of the top universities you should be able to get 300RMB or more per hour tutoring. |
big cities pay more for full-time teachers and more for part-time teachers. the cost of living is higher, so they have to. but reputation means a lot in a country like china. i'd be very surprised if OP weren't able to make a very, very comfortable living on his/her part-time earnings here simply because he/she would be able to honestly say that they teach english at tsinghua. honestly, that's a pretty hard job for most people to get. many people apply to tsinghua when they advertise but few are deemed qualified. try reading that NYT column to get an idea about the kind of people they hire. a lot of flexibility is shown in hiring here because there's a constant shortage of native english teachers in china, but not everybody is begging. tsinghua certainly isn't.
harbin institute of technology is one of the top ten in china. they have foreign teachers there and they do very well in the market for part-timers. better than anybody else here and by a wide margin, i think. and that has a lot to do with the fact that they're teaching at HIT.
you won't become filthy rich teaching english in china, but you can live a really comfortable life here if you can find the right place for yourself. |
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