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Voldermort

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 597
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: Book recommendation |
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I'm looking for a text book suitable for use with senior high schoolers.
Some background:
I've a group of middle schoolers whome I've been teaching for some years now. So far, we've been using 'Junior New Concept', currently on book 3A. Their English level is comparable to high school grade 2.
These students have begun complaining that the book is too easy. I agree to an extent. The grammar and vocab they are learning is suitable but there are not enough brain challenging activities to be done. They are getting into the mindset that they know everything but when it comes time to use it they are lost.
I need a book that gradually introduces new concepts and gives them many many examples/activities. My classes are very grammar oriented. They also do a lot of translating. The ideal book would be something that allows them to translate a passage into L2, after I have modeled key points, then questions and answers on the text. These questions would preferably be reading between the lines.
Most books I come across are just plain stupid. For example they almost always begin with simple present tense use of 'to be' and "where do you come from?" Then the reading activities go something like this: "I have never been to London" with a question like "Has William ever been to London?" (taken from book 3A). It's just too easy, yet being introduced to simple perfect tense is what they need. They also need to learn more adverbs and prepositions to really get ahead.
I'm of the impression that most books on the Chinese market are just somebody who couldn't make it a teacher's way of making a quick buck (pun intended). |
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Denim-Maniac
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1238
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: |
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I dont know much about your teaching context, but cant you supplement the book you already have with lots of genuine practice and communication orientated tasks? The problem with students 'knowing' the target language is a common one ... using the basic PPP model, they have the 'presentation', and the book gives limited 'practice', but they aren't given the chance to 'produce'. The language production part should be the largest part of the lesson really.
I use the Face2Face series of books ... I like them but not sure Id recommend them as I dont think they are always suitable for teens. Again, the practice is limited, but the scope for language production (where it could be argued real learning takes place) is down to me really. |
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Voldermort

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 597
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
I dont know much about your teaching context, but cant you supplement the book you already have with lots of genuine practice and communication orientated tasks? The problem with students 'knowing' the target language is a common one ... using the basic PPP model, they have the 'presentation', and the book gives limited 'practice', but they aren't given the chance to 'produce'. The language production part should be the largest part of the lesson really.
I use the Face2Face series of books ... I like them but not sure Id recommend them as I dont think they are always suitable for teens. Again, the practice is limited, but the scope for language production (where it could be argued real learning takes place) is down to me really. |
I agree with you there. The biggest problem I face is keeping up with them. I teach them once a week for two hours, they have probably 7 or 8 hours each week with their other teachers. I look on their time with me as presentation and production. They can practice in class. The production is part is worthy of a topic in itself. In fact, I see topics like that popping up from time to time.
I looked over a copy of Face2Face once before and rejected it. Can't remember exactly why though.
Browsing the web I have come across a few threads from people who are also a little disappointed with the JNC series. It starts off well, but getting into the third series it's just not good enough. There is zero thinking involved. A few recomendations from those threads points to 'New Headway' and 'Interchange'. I have used the first in the series of latter before and found it to be too quick. It was a challenge to supplement the content. |
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Denim-Maniac
Joined: 31 Jan 2012 Posts: 1238
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Voldermort wrote: |
I looked over a copy of Face2Face once before and rejected it. Can't remember exactly why though.
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I use it for German teenagers and sometimes the topics dont work for them. Marriage and prenups for example ... they were too young to have an opinion on such things. Generally I like the books though. Also a little euro-centric for Chinese students maybe
I dont think students need to be challenged to 'think' though. They need to be challenged to produce language in meaningful ways. Meaningful doesnt need to mean intellectual. Information gap tasks, find someone whos, give advice (1st cond), discuss impossible dreams (2nd cond) and share regrets (3rd cond) are all simple topics but give students the chance to use the language for a purpose. |
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Voldermort

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 597
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
| I dont think students need to be challenged to 'think' though. They need to be challenged to produce language in meaningful ways. Meaningful doesnt need to mean intellectual. Information gap tasks, find someone whos, give advice (1st cond), discuss impossible dreams (2nd cond) and share regrets (3rd cond) are all simple topics but give students the chance to use the language for a purpose. |
You say teenagers, but what age range? I'm dealing with 13-14 yr olds, my eldest. They just aren't at that level yet where they can discuss such topics. And open discussions always ends up with simplified answers. But, if I ask them to write out a dialog, and they hate writing, they do great.
I say they need to think more. I'll give you an example. Before I give a listening activity, I always encourage them to guess the answers first. I''m trying to teach them that questions 2 and 3 will help answer question 1, or at least hint towards key words they should be listening for. Last week I did this. The listening was about a village in Italy with no sunshine for 5 months each year. The first 4 questions were ambiguous, but the fifth gave away the answers if you could read between the lines. The question was simply "Where do they want to install a mirror?". Just reading this, one of the kids had a Eurika moment. He could explain himself in L1, but first trying in L2 leaft him speechless, and he's a very talkative kid. Given time to think, he would have been able to do it, but on the spot, he's just not ready. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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You will get more buy in from the students if you have them do cocktail party or similar activities ie Perpetual Questions from time to time.
All the students must ask and answer questions and there is virtually no TTT.
You need an open space as it can't be done in the static Chinese classroom.
This type of activity totally differentiates you from their Chinese teachers.
They would never dispute teaching style with their Chinese teachers! |
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