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likwid_777



Joined: 04 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, and understandable on the employers' behalves, to an extent.

Though, when the "legit paperwork" comes in the form of an F visa, it's still not legitimate. The transition was from L to F visa for me.

I should probably also mention that I did not have a degree.

Not realising that the whole "you can work in China without a degree" story actually meant that you can easily work in China illegally without a degree, I was suckered in.

My situation was similar to yours, in the way of desperation.

I wasn't unemployed, but I was so over my job that some trip to a far away land (which had always been appealing), became even more appealing.

I suppose the transition from an F to (a possible) Z visa is more desirable than an L to F transition. Hang on, is it?

Because the consequences will be the same, in reality, if you get pinned on an F visa. Which was, indeed, the one I was pinned with.

Do you have a degree? I am halfway through mine now, haha! Idea
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Va2china



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

likwid_777 wrote:
True, and understandable on the employers' behalves, to an extent.

Though, when the "legit paperwork" comes in the form of an F visa, it's still not legitimate. The transition was from L to F visa for me.

I should probably also mention that I did not have a degree.

Not realising that the whole "you can work in China without a degree" story actually meant that you can easily work in China illegally without a degree, I was suckered in.

My situation was similar to yours, in the way of desperation.

I wasn't unemployed, but I was so over my job that some trip to a far away land (which had always been appealing), became even more appealing.

I suppose the transition from an F to (a possible) Z visa is more desirable than an L to F transition. Hang on, is it?

Because the consequences will be the same, in reality, if you get pinned on an F visa. Which was, indeed, the one I was pinned with.

Do you have a degree? I am halfway through mine now, haha! Idea


I can understand them wanting to fully be sure they get what their looking for, and that the fees paid for the z visa isn't wasted. I have a degree, and I worked in corporate America for a while which just wasn't for me. I really want to teach, but I'm thinking I'm going to steer back towards Korea. I don't like how it seems a lot of things in China are up for interpretation.

How did they catch you? Just a random stop by the school?
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likwid_777



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some journo came to our school, interrogating teachers as to whether they were native speakers or not. Ruffled some feathers. Then went to PSB, who then looked through the school situation. Not trying to scare you from going to China, just trying to warn you that doing it legit will be oh so much better for you. Though you'll still have problems, but hey! That's the fun of going to work in a country which is totally different from your own.
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Va2china



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

likwid_777 wrote:
Some journo came to our school, interrogating teachers as to whether they were native speakers or not. Ruffled some feathers. Then went to PSB, who then looked through the school situation. Not trying to scare you from going to China, just trying to warn you that doing it legit will be oh so much better for you. Though you'll still have problems, but hey! That's the fun of going to work in a country which is totally different from your own.


No, I appreciate it. I knew something was weird was I was told to not mention my salary at the embassy, which I am just not comfortable doing.
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JamesD



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Va2china wrote:
.............I was told to not mention my salary at the embassy, which I am just not comfortable doing.


Flag on the play! Big red flag.
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GeminiTiger



Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

Do not do it, you will regret it.
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kungfuman



Joined: 31 May 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it but be prepared for the worst.

The worst mean they lied to you, you get caught and the school tosses you under the bus, they send you to HK on a regular basis as they can't get you a real visa or nothing bad happens and you do fine.

You won't know till you give it a try.

So JUST DO IT...Nike
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