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Do the new July regs affect residence permits?

 
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keeperofpythons



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Do the new July regs affect residence permits? Reply with quote

Wasn't sure if this was on or off topic, so apologies in advance if I put this in the wrong forum...

My RP is done on August 2nd. Since I have been in China, each year I've gone to the PSB on the very last day of the validity because I have only ever been given 364-day extensions. Seems to me that's the best plan of action so as to have more overall time in the country and time between final exams being finished and moving to a hypothetical new employer's location.

There's a new FAO in town and she says that the new July regs state that RPs must be renewed a month before expiration, beginning in August. This is the first I have heard of that anywhere in any form. Thing is - if I go this week, then my next RP will be done either before or during final exams next June and that would be a complete train wreck. Does anyone out there know anything about this, one way or the other?

For what it's worth, I'm in Guangdong.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone out there know anything about this, one way or the other?


No one knows. If they tell you they know then they are making it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
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Does anyone out there know anything about this, one way or the other?


No one knows. If they tell you they know then they are making it up.


I was just more or less looking to see if I had missed something insofar as articles have been written and postings have been made with details about what has been written into law. Whether or not it will be enforced is another question. I haven't yet seen any mention about changes to how resident permits work, just Z visas, F visas, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

check www.shanghaiexpat.com HOWEVER that info may only pertain to Shanghai
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the link. There MAY be some helpful advice here or it MAY just be nonsense.


http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/new-visa-rules-t158390.html#p1837448
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: Do the new July regs affect residence permits? Reply with quote

keeperofpythons wrote:
Thing is - if I go this week, then my next RP will be done either before or during final exams next June and that would be a complete train wreck.


Is it really a problem? Can't, or won't the school just get you another RP to cover the final few weeks? The RP doesn't have to be for a year does it? I'm wondering if they could just extend both the FEC and RP for a month or whatever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
Here's the link. There MAY be some helpful advice here or it MAY just be nonsense.


http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbforum/new-visa-rules-t158390.html#p1837448


These are similar, perhaps identical, to those that have been posted on this site previously. Also, those are about visas. I originally came on a Z years ago, which was converted to an RP which has been renewed a few times since. I'm looking for evidence about whether or not RPs have or have not been affected.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Do the new July regs affect residence permits? Reply with quote

doogsville wrote:
Is it really a problem? Can't, or won't the school just get you another RP to cover the final few weeks? The RP doesn't have to be for a year does it? I'm wondering if they could just extend both the FEC and RP for a month or whatever.


Theoretically, it's not a problem by definition. In my experience, I have always looked for a way to cut question marks out of the equation when dealing with the Chinese, especially FAOs. Cutting off avenues for potential future screw ups has served me well by-and-large. I don't want to put myself in a situation where I have to experience whether or not they can't or won't do that kind of thing later.

Getting it done right the first time, and hopefully getting me extended to the first week of August 2014 will make me as happy as a fat kid with cake.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes, I had a further read on that link above from shanghaiexpat. It's a good thing I haven't planned my yearly summer dive trip yet. I know we always tout "this is China" whenever something mind-boggling happens, but there's no reason why it would be necessary for them to hold one's passport for 14 or 21 days instead of 7 like it had been in years past. For those of us that teach in the public education system, 21 days is a sizable portion of our summer holiday. That could ruin all kinds of plans unless you take buses and sleep at a friend's place and hope that no situation arises that requires you to produce your passport.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you quit a job? Your residence permit is still valid until when?

I tested these ropes before and came out ok, I have a bigger rope this time. I wonder what the outcome will be.

So far, the Beijing offers are completely idiotic. Today I had a good "fishing" day, many bites but while you reel these suckers in the recruiter antics are at play.

I just need to wait, right? Wait until what? Recruiters are a buffer zone. I am a good candidate for a job, but they want a better offer too. Work more hours, less pay, all that.

So, by waiting, I am waiting for someone to take my offer/s with lesser conditions.

This is the game folks in China. What are you willing to do without?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Residence permits don't have to be for just a year. Our school always gets the new ones issued in June, good until the end of August the following year.
I have a friend who works at another uni that always gets RPs that are good for only 6 months. Weird, but another example of TIC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know we always tout "this is China" whenever something mind-boggling happens, but there's no reason why it would be necessary for them to hold one's passport for 14 or 21 days instead of 7 like it had been in years past.


I reported on another thread that Beijing gave me a three week wait....and I was told that there has to be a least two weeks left on the old
RP....in the past I would hand it in in June and they would give me one by adding the current days to the new RP so I paid for a less than a year and got more than a year stated on the RP....my university in in England so they pay me back me for the visa money spent...a friend from NZ who works for China Daily had a two week wait for the RP....
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